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Old 16-09-2020, 15:21   #91
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Old 16-09-2020, 16:06   #92
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All you retards WFH ... you do realise your pathetic jobs can also be done from Mumbai
Mine cant because of a) time zone and b) the fact we work with UK citizen data. Not even allowed to take my work phone or laptop abroad.
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Old 17-09-2020, 09:33   #94
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Old 17-09-2020, 12:43   #95
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Apparently they're going to try this if cases keep rising, a lockdown for those classed as 'vulnerable' - in a bid to avoid a blanket lockdown for all.

I still think the idea is flawed in practice, the first obvious question is what do you do if you're not vulnerable yourself but you live with someone who is? Surely you must lockdown as well for their benefit?

Secondly, how do you enforce it? Will fat old men be literally banned from pubs while younger, fitter people are allowed in? Asking for a friend*

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There is no perfect solution, but just because someone lives with their fat diabetic granddad shouldn't mean the whole country should come to a stand still.
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Old 17-09-2020, 13:05   #96
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You present it like it's necessary to 'avoid the whole country' coming to a standstill but I don't think we really know the numbers on this. It's not just the millions of people who are clinically vulnerable, it must also include those who live in the same house as them. It could be quite a lot of people affected depending on what types of people are sent letters. It's said to be a wider net than the previous 'shielding' group. One rumour is that it could be anyone over the age of 50, regardless of other co-morbidities, which is obviously a massive chunk of people affected when you consider how many people still live with their parents.

If only Tories had sorted out the housing crisis.

You're right there's no perfect solution to this, not convinced there's even a 'good' solution to it. A pandemic was always said to be a really damaging problem that would always need a vaccine to ultimately solve, otherwise we are basically fucked. The way our economy and society has been built is incompatible with life under a pandemic.
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Old 17-09-2020, 15:16   #97
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Most people who get it are unsymptomatic, it's not even been proven you're contagious if you're unsymptomatic.

As for 'always going to need a vaccine', I'm unconvinced, the dreaded second wave is supposedly among us yet deaths are not really happening...
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Most people who get it are unsymptomatic
Around 20%....

https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/as...ent-of-people/
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Old 17-09-2020, 16:37   #99
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the dreaded second wave is supposedly among us yet deaths are not really happening...
Jumping the gun a bit there, there's a lead time between a positive test and a death. Those dying today won't have contracted it in this recent surge, they'll have been in hospital for weeks and initially contracted it back in the quiet period.

Some people getting it in this wave will begin filtering into hospitals over the next few weeks, in theory.

The difference now is that we're more aware, the vulnerable are on red alert for it and will be really cautious. Those that do get hospitalised also stand a better chance due to some new treatments. So we should see fewer hospitalisations and of those, fewer deaths.

The media do gloss over this a bit and focus on cases which can be misleading, last time only people who were fucked with it were getting tested in hospital or on their death bed in care homes. Now testing is widespread, so I imagine cases will accelerate way beyond the previous peak of 5k a day. New hospitalisations is the one to watch.
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Old 17-09-2020, 17:24   #100
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There is evidence that the death rates are coming down even taking into account the lag and age groups who are getting it at the moment. At least in Germany....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ7vPxWC-3Y&t=1225s

Death rates aren't the only thing though. A lot of people (including young) are coming out with affects lasting months after the initial illness. We don't really know the long term affects as it stands.
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