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Old 16-02-2021, 16:56   #51
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That would be virtual signalling. Look, it's pretty simple, virtual signalling is pathetic and wrong unless it's
  • Wearing a poppy and shaming those without one.
  • Clapping for NHS workers.
  • Demanding we help our own before foreigners (but then refuse to help our own)
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Old 18-02-2021, 13:00   #52
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Btw I looked into this because it does seem daft, from what I can tell it's not the case a male sportsman can just tell the competition he's a woman and enter the female version of the sport. They have hormone tests, have to be taking estrogen/have testosterone below a certain level and all sorts of other processes that show a conscious and wilful decision to be transitioning anyway regardless of their sporting career. I can't see an athlete seriously fucking with their body just to petition to change entry to a sport they're already in.

Plus it's probably affects <0.1% of sport so again, a lot of noise over something pretty insignificant.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sports...es/4345854001/

There are talented female athletes that would have got college scholarships but missed out because a trans athlete finished above them in state championships. Even if it's one place it makes a difference. Just because someone takes hormones for a year doesn't negate the massive muscle mass they put on after going through a male puberty.
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Old 18-02-2021, 13:29   #53
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Maybe they weren't good enough for a top spot regardless of who was above them tbh, I'm not saying that's the case but just assuming they lost because the person who beat them used to be a man could also be an easy excuse? If the trans athlete is clearly and consistently outperforming all the females in the division then yes, but if it's like they came 3rd and two women came 1st and 2nd, then I dunno, the one saying they finished 4th and all because the trans person had an unfair edge, it kinda rings a bit hollow. I'd need to actually know the sport in question quite well, watch the competition etc before making a judgement either way on the winners.

Anyway my point was it's not as simple as it's made out, which was what I was initially led to believe by the commentators on the right who were kicking up a fuss about it all, a brick shithouse in a wig absolutely smashing it and taking all the trophies etc.
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is that chris eubank?
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IMO there should be a separate category for trans athletes to compete in against each other.

Can anyone give an example of a trans man that competes in men’s sports, all the example I’ve seen has been trans women in women’s sports, that’s a little curious.... I wonder why that would be lol
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I mean in all fairness you could tell me 2 was trans and I'd believe you, no offence to her but she's quite hench, most female athletes are. Look at Serena Williams ffs, she'd fucking batter most men.
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