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Old 13-01-2022, 03:51   #271
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Three doses of vaccines and I still have died. When do we start dropping?
when the next virus gets released
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Old 13-01-2022, 10:36   #272
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Haven't been asked for one. You can just do a negative LFT anyway if you're not vaccinated.

Can you do that with Poland's vaccine passport?
It doesn't have one, they're smart enough to realise it's the thin end of the wedge of totalitarianism and they've already lived under it with Nazis and Commies.

Meanwhile Germany talking about mandatory vaccination.
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Old 13-01-2022, 23:59   #273
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It doesn't have one, they're smart enough to realise it's the thin end of the wedge of totalitarianism and they've already lived under it with Nazis and Commies.

Meanwhile Germany talking about mandatory vaccination.
https://www.covidpasscertificate.com...d-certificate/
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Old 14-01-2022, 09:22   #274
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That's EU, you need them for the borders not internally.
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Old 14-01-2022, 12:58   #275
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You're splitting hairs though because you're making out UK has some kind of spetsnaz regime for it that you can't live your life without showing papers. I've been out and gone places and not once been asked for it. Pretty sure it's only big venues with huge crowds, or certain nightclubs and even then the unvaccinated can still go, they just have to do a lateral <72 hours before.

It's very similar for Poland (and most of the EU, apart from maybe Hungary) : https://www.gov.pl/web/coronavirus/t...ry-limitations - cultural restrictions inside certain settings, but exemptions if you have that EU pass or can show a negative test.

Maybe you'll say that's just the guidelines and nobody bothers in practice, ok, but same can be said of anywhere. Especially with all the revelations coming out about the Tories, public appetite for getting into semantics on following certain rules is at an all time low. Apart from for travelling, the passes will be binned later this year tbh, when you think about all of this now and the way it's going, it's all late in the day to be pissing about with passes. I've honestly not heard people even really talk about them apart from the pundits who, quite honestly, piss and moan about everything in life these days and will go out of their way to try and be inconvenienced by it so they can have a moan.

Sooner or later we 'live with covid' and depends on what that means. Is it simply a case of pretending it doesn't exist and just live like it never happened or do we adapt to use certain tools. Like, should LFTs become a regular thing we use before social events? Mandatory isolation will go at some point and it'll probably be optional, which feels fair. Let people decide their own risk, but I don't think that'll placate some. The types that have banged on about 'live in fear if you want, I'm getting on with life with no mask' still get angry at people wearing them or working from home etc. The types that don't really mean 'do what you like' - they really mean 'do what I want'
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Old 15-01-2022, 17:21   #276
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You're splitting hairs though because you're making out UK has some kind of spetsnaz regime for it that you can't live your life without showing papers. I've been out and gone places and not once been asked for it. Pretty sure it's only big venues with huge crowds, or certain nightclubs and even then the unvaccinated can still go, they just have to do a lateral <72 hours before.

It's very similar for Poland (and most of the EU, apart from maybe Hungary) : https://www.gov.pl/web/coronavirus/t...ry-limitations - cultural restrictions inside certain settings, but exemptions if you have that EU pass or can show a negative test.

Maybe you'll say that's just the guidelines and nobody bothers in practice, ok, but same can be said of anywhere. Especially with all the revelations coming out about the Tories, public appetite for getting into semantics on following certain rules is at an all time low. Apart from for travelling, the passes will be binned later this year tbh, when you think about all of this now and the way it's going, it's all late in the day to be pissing about with passes. I've honestly not heard people even really talk about them apart from the pundits who, quite honestly, piss and moan about everything in life these days and will go out of their way to try and be inconvenienced by it so they can have a moan.

Sooner or later we 'live with covid' and depends on what that means. Is it simply a case of pretending it doesn't exist and just live like it never happened or do we adapt to use certain tools. Like, should LFTs become a regular thing we use before social events? Mandatory isolation will go at some point and it'll probably be optional, which feels fair. Let people decide their own risk, but I don't think that'll placate some. The types that have banged on about 'live in fear if you want, I'm getting on with life with no mask' still get angry at people wearing them or working from home etc. The types that don't really mean 'do what you like' - they really mean 'do what I want'
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Old 15-01-2022, 20:23   #277
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If they don?t work, explain why the outcomes from the Omicron wave are so much worse in the USA compared with the UK?
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the covid passes set to be ditched in 2 weeks anyway

weird how they get tyranny and then stop, surely they done goofed on the master plan?
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If they don?t work, explain why the outcomes from the Omicron wave are so much worse in the USA compared with the UK?
Because the argument magically changes again, when deaths coming down the metric is genuine and proof its over. When it's going up, the deaths are fake, mixed in with car accidents and it's proof of nothing. The doctors and coroners all know when to change the way they do the stats as well, they all get on a big zoom call and agree 'so we're putting car accident victims as covid again from monday yes, we all agreed? cool'
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Maybe 99.9% of died WITH Covid cases in America were actually mass shootings .
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