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Old 04-03-2021, 21:31   #51
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Lol, idiotic measure, he's a retard*. That's like when they looked at the headline efficacy of vaccines and the raw data said x%... but that included people who already had it or caught it within the two/three weeks it takes for them to kick in... once they adjusted for that the efficacy was y% (with y >>>>>> x).


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That?s the exact measurement they use to determine whether someone died from the COVID, u fuckin retard. Ur the troll u student toff cunt
So how many people died within 30 days of the vax?
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Old 04-03-2021, 22:08   #52
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That?s the exact measurement they use to determine whether someone died from the COVID, u fuckin retard. Ur the troll u student toff cunt
So how many people died within 30 days of the vax?
That's actually one of two measurements, 124k have died within 28 days of a test as a simple catchment of rolling data to track cases>deaths but over 140k have it on the death certificate, so the 28 day measurement actually underreports it over time because it's obviously missing people who have a test but die 29 days+ later from prolonged hospitalisation

But for sake of argument lets stick with your measurement

4.2 million cases with 124k dying 28 days later. But 4.2 million is confirmed test results, not just very mild people who didn't even realise or bother with a test. ONS estimates 7 million have had it so far in the UK. So that gives you a mortality rate of 1.7% - they could be out by another few million tbh, anything between 0.5% and 1.5% is probably about right for the UK. Call it 1% if you like.

20 million have been given at least one dose so far. About 200 have died within 28 days of being vaccinated, heart attacks, stroke, etc. That's a supposed mortality rate then of 0.001%

So there's no basis to be fearful of the vaccine but not the virus, it makes no sense, even if the vaccine did just kill 0.001% of people stone dead there and then, which I very much doubt, it's still way safer than getting covid, even after being generous towards your position in the workings out.
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Old 05-03-2021, 02:57   #53
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im not fearful of the virus, thats why i dont want or need the vax, now fuck off
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Old 05-03-2021, 18:07   #54
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Because you've shown yourself up as gullible twonk?
I'll put my hands up and say I do post stuff that conform to my biases but I just came across it just before bedtime and thought I'd chuck it in there. However as for being gullible, you're the one who is prepared to just go along with loss of freedoms because you're scared of a virus.

Personally I'll take my chances that I have a decent immune system rather than being a guinea pig for a barely tested vaccine. Yet we're at a point in history where the institutions of power are pushing a very simplistic binary message of take a vaccine or continue the lockdowns. You're swallowing that message, I'm not, that's the difference.
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Dude literally everything you post as evidence in support of whatever argument you make usually gets trashed as shown to be biased, but like the shite Luke was posting a while ago. You’re just too self aware and can’t go on the same denial binge so now you’re doing the classic “whatabout you” deflection with Craig lol
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Old 05-03-2021, 21:39   #57
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I'll put my hands up and say I do post stuff that conform to my biases but I just came across it just before bedtime and thought I'd chuck it in there. However as for being gullible, you're the one who is prepared to just go along with loss of freedoms because you're scared of a virus.

Personally I'll take my chances that I have a decent immune system rather than being a guinea pig for a barely tested vaccine. Yet we're at a point in history where the institutions of power are pushing a very simplistic binary message of take a vaccine or continue the lockdowns. You're swallowing that message, I'm not, that's the difference.
Lol, bAreLy tEstEd.

Anyway, the point was "I'll take my chances" with coronavirus is a statistically stupid position. Taking your chances with something with 1% mortality over something that's 0.001% - it's like saying you'd rather take your chances skydiving than eating a banana. Both are unlikely to kill you but opting for the one that is more likely is moronic. I mean reject it for personal liberty reasons if you want, but stfu about safety and claims it's killing people ok? You sound fucking braindead.
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Old 06-03-2021, 12:17   #58
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It's not 1% mortality, supposedly it's 0.3% which is also bollocks because that isn't MY chance of it killing me, merely the mean.
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It's not that low, especially in the UK, but even if it was it's still larger than 0.001% - which by the way is the mean too. Those who have died 28 days after the vaccine in your age bracket is probably 0 lol
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Personally I'll take my chances that I have a decent immune system rather than being a guinea pig for a barely tested vaccine. Yet we're at a point in history where the institutions of power are pushing a very simplistic binary message of take a vaccine or continue the lockdowns. You're swallowing that message, I'm not, that's the difference.
That's not true either. You can choose to refuse the vaccine and legal restrictions are going to end in a few months in any case.
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