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Old 20-05-2020, 17:50   #81
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Old 20-05-2020, 22:15   #82
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You can get a private antibody test to find out. More and more people are doing that and the 'nasty cold they had in december' that they've convinced themselves was covid turns out to be ... just a nasty cold.

It just isn't so undetectable that it's been here ages, otherwise we'd not have had the additional death spikes from covid deaths, globally, in March we'd have had them in December etc. People forget if it was truly just a mild bit of flu type illness, we'd not even know about it. Instead it got attention fairly quickly as people presented in hospital in Wuhan.
I had pneumonia in December. There was just a particularly bad bug going round then.
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Old 20-05-2020, 23:47   #83
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I had pneumonia in December. There was just a particularly bad bug going round then.
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Old 21-05-2020, 11:44   #84
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No way schools are opening 1st June.

Hard to see how this isn't a massive balls up, the infection rate and case numbers might well indicate relative safety for schools by then but they tie themselves up in knots by setting an unrealistic and arbitrary deadline for things, hang all the plans off them, and then when it's inevitably missed have to try and make up a response in the mess. They've told the public (parents, in this case) and teachers that schools will be fine, mostly because they will have a world beating track and trace system in place by time they open and it will control outbreaks.

Now it's come out that the app is a pile of shit and won't be ready by 1st June. So the result is schools reopening without a major defence against the virus being in place. Of course councils and unions think it's bonkers to plow on with the deadline regardless. What's the point in opening them too soon? If it flares back up they'll be shut and if a teacher or a pupil dies then blame will squarely land with government for riding roughshod over everyone who was asking for them to review the plan.

The minute anyone criticising this it's called "unpatriotic" and "just finding fault with them, they're doing their best" Laura Kunesberg appears to have completely given up asking awkward questions. Is she also pregnant with a Boris baby? It seems it's left to just Piers Morgan to call them out on the bullshit, which makes all this even more surreal as I find myself agreeing with him so often.

All people want, whether you voted for this total crock of a party or not, is just a bit of honesty and realism with all this, if the app isn't going to be ready, just tell us, push the opening dates for schools back a bit and say without the track and trace in place they're not comfortable asking schools to open. They might get some grumbling but I think the response would be largely positive.

Instead they're going to do the usual, barrel towards the deadline in total denial, tell everyone to wave the flags harder, believe in the plan and then crash onto the rocks of reality a few days before it, pull a u-turn and gaslight us for ever thinking 1st June was the date they said.
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edit; double post yet again ffs
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Old 21-05-2020, 13:00   #86
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Who gives a fuck about some stupid app, summer will be here = no virus outside + greater immunity.

28,330 died of flu 5 years ago, we're now at 35,704 dead this year from 'Corona'. All this talk of Armageddon is bullshit, all because some loopy scientist reckoned 500,000 would die according to his shitty model. I'm not saying it's 'just flu' but the way this thing has been handled is so bollocks, not quarantining new arrivals into the UK AT ALL while the underground runs as normal, no mandatory mask wearing in enclosed spaces, sending codgers with confirmed corona to care homes. Yet all people can bark on about is testing and some dystopian tracking program, good grief.
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It's not a zero sum game, the care home situation is another balls up. This is just the present balls up. The lack of airport quarantine was apparently 'guided by the science' regarding the optimum time to do it and in our case when not do it, but I'm yet to hear the actual scientific argument behind it, if there even is one. At face value it makes no sense to try and hammer down the number of cases, while simultaneously allowing a unknown number of cases to enter the UK every single time a plane lands.
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28,330 died of flu 5 years ago, we're now at 35,704 dead this year from 'Corona'.
Bear in mind though it's month 5 of 12 (assuming it arrived 1st Jan as well) and the 35k is in spite of lockdown measures rather than lack of them like influenza. Without them it's hard to see how the death toll wouldn't be far higher. We're commenting on the deadliness of a tiger when it's been caged.

I think the scientific consensus has come to it being 10x deadlier than seasonal flu.
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Also 'only' 35,000 have died *after* we shutdown the entire country.

You sound like one of those people who bang on about how nothing happened as a result of Y2k, therefore all the money spent on mitigation was wasted, as there clearly wasnt a problem.
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