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Old 18-07-2021, 21:55   #181
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Old 18-07-2021, 22:00   #182
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The vaccines are going to cause a super variant and fuck all the Vaxxed good and proper
While people like me who never took the vax will have I compromised immune systems and still be able to fight the coof off like a common cold
it's not the vaccines that will create that you scientific iliterate cunt. What will cause it, is morally bankrupt leaders like Johnson who think its fine to have infection rates of 50K plus and still let everyone to go at it.

The variants arise through mutation chances each and every time the virus replicates itself in a human host. All the vaccine does is increase antibodies and to a certain extent trains your t-cell response. It's not like training super antibiotic resitant bacteria through over use in livestock feeds you simple ginger spastic fuck
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Old 19-07-2021, 07:50   #183
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I'm not sure what's worse, Stag being genuinely stupid, or Bakez pretending to be.
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Old 19-07-2021, 13:36   #184
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Get fucked Pauline, I'm just not regurgitating every right thinking point pumped into me by the BBC and the Guardian.

The safety concerns are up for debate (especially with the RNA type jabs) and only time will really tell the truth but I concede they are clearly effective on the original strain.

However, the mass deployment of these experimental vaccines will likely not bring the end of this pandemic but possibly lengthen it. Whilst you are protected from the original strain it's quite possible that with such large scale vaccine-mediated selection pressure you will be actually worse off in the long run as viral escape ensures a variant that will not be targeted by the vaccine induced antibodies.

Personally I have faith in a healthy immune system and lessening my potential exposure where possible.
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Old 19-07-2021, 13:53   #185
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But the current wave is already caused by a variant of the original virus, so the efficacy of the vaccine against variants is demonstrable.
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Old 19-07-2021, 17:48   #186
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Not really, the vaccinated who are not displaying symptoms are still hosting the virus. Their antibodie are less effective against the new variants and become a petri dish for the virus to mutate due to their imperfect immunity. If you look into it a lot of the case rises around the world they came AFTER mass vaccination.
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Old 19-07-2021, 18:04   #187
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COVID-19: 60% of people being admitted to hospital with coronavirus have been double jabbed, says Vallance

It comes as figures show most regions of England now have more coronavirus patients in hospital than at any point since mid-March.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...lance-12359317
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Old 19-07-2021, 20:42   #188
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He corrected that to say that actually 60% were unvaccinated
:https://twitter.com/uksciencechief/s...356213252?s=21
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Old 19-07-2021, 21:15   #189
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The point still stands that the 'double jab' doesn't provide immunity, whether the possibilities of full vaccine escape variants happen is anyone's guess, but 'opening up' could well contribute to it.
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So are all you gimps going along with the idea of vaccine passports?
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