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Old 22-03-2018, 10:49   #3611
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and we're still mirroring EU law anyway for the foreseeable future even after we've left as part of us keeping everything running smoothly with Britain/Ireland/EU trade and regulation.
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Old 22-03-2018, 10:54   #3612
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In fact, it's not just government policy, it's governed by WTO

https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e...e/gp_gpa_e.htm

So it doesn't matter how hard a Brexit we have, we'll still abide by WTO rules.
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Old 22-03-2018, 11:23   #3613
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THEN WE'LL LEAVE THE WTO. AND RELOCATE TO NEPTUNE.

TAKE ARE COUNTRY BACK.
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Old 22-03-2018, 12:31   #3614
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The problem with global (or multinational) agreements is that every country is different, different rules, different incomes, different societies etc. So forcing the UK for example, to open bids to China, where labour and materials are cheaper, is very often going to undercut British suppliers.

Same with "free trade" agreements. Countries that subsidise their products and services (like the US for example) can then easily "force" their business onto other countries who don't subsidise, thereby putting those countries out of business. Africa being the best example... African farmers unable to survive because importing food/crops/etc. from the US (where it's subsidised) is cheaper than local produce.
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Old 22-03-2018, 12:49   #3615
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In fact, it's not just government policy, it's governed by WTO

https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e...e/gp_gpa_e.htm

So it doesn't matter how hard a Brexit we have, we'll still abide by WTO rules.
So you recognise that 'free trade' and globalisation results in a race to the bottom and that protectionism (aka economic nationalism) is necessary to prevent those problems. Of which Brexit is but one small step towards. Nobody said it would solve everything.
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Old 22-03-2018, 13:10   #3616
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It's the EXACT same principle btw, as hiring foreign workers who've come to Britain and are prepared to work for less than British workers. The same laissez-faire capitalist race to the bottom BULLSHIT so beloved of our elite.
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Old 22-03-2018, 13:13   #3617
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This is why the notion of defining full sovereignty as never accommodating supranational laws is outmoded, and unrealistic. Is it even desirable any more by the majority of people? It's not the 50s any more, so what if we share laws. It makes sense we would have big overlaps with common laws in modern times, most people, regardless of the passport they hold tend to believe in the same sort of things.

Brexit was sold by promoting us gloriously restoring sovereignty and also that our quality of life would either remain the same, perhaps even a short-term fall, but long-term would be excellent. You can't really do that by withdrawing from the world, literally, in the form of highly protectionist trade, leaving international bodies and treaties and excluding who we trade with on a massive level. It's sort of one or the other.

It's the core reason why the government is fucked over "delivering Brexit" and have reached this "full regulatory alignment" idea with the EU because it's the only way to keep things ticking over and potentially placate the electorate that they 'took back control'
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Old 22-03-2018, 13:22   #3618
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This government doesn't want to leave the EU. Not sure how many times to tell you this before it sinks in. Maybe you are incapable of understanding it.

Also, nobody has said withdraw from the world. Britain has traded globally for centuries. We just don't want it to be as capitalistic as it is now, because it fucks a lot of people over.
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Britain has traded globally for centuries.
Initially through colonialism and mass murder though to be fair
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So every country on earth could negotiate standards and trade deals with every other country on earth, and that won't be a collossal waste of time?
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