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Old 29-10-2018, 12:54   #11
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Divide and conquer is a known successful strategy. If division makes conquest easier then why is diversity our strength?
FWIW "diversity is our strength" is a soundbite that I think overstates the benefits a bit. It's been seized upon as some kind of benchmark that people have, either mistakenly or probably deliberately, that should absolve any and all issues surrounding race and or religion. Look, a white and a black having a scrap over their skin colour, but but "diversity is our strength guys! right?!" - very trite, but about as insightful as pointing at people dying in a hospital and going 'But, I thought hospitals are supposed to HEAL people?!"

It's a bit of a perfect solution fallacy you like to bring up a lot, as if the inevitable re-amalgamation of race in a globalised world is going to be perfect with no friction and resistance from groups who have linked their fleeting existence, identity and self-worth to the happenstance of what ethnicity they were born with. No, some will want to preserve it, no matter how futile it quite clearly is in the wider context of our civilisation. They'll do so with political resitance, violent resistance etc. But the trajectory is set isn't it? Unless you want to ban all travel and keep nations within their walls with a ban on shagging anyone still on your side of the wall who isn't your race. No, won't happen, so it's a managed decline of the individual races over the coming centuries.

Diversity is pretty irrelevant in the greater scheme of things IMO, so it might not be a massively heralded strength like some probably believe, but it also isn't some fundamental weakness. You're being hysterical when you say it's the end of mankind ffs. There's genuine threats to our future you're completely blasé about, but amazingly those are brushed away as being overblown or flat out made up.
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Old 29-10-2018, 13:00   #12
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Why bother with obvious fascistic activity when you can break the indigenous workers natural solidarity through mass immigration of diverse and sometimes hostile cultures? It's a great strategy to ensure unions remain weak and class antagonisms are displaced by inter-ethnic divisions and conflict.

You can then create even more antagonisms between the groupings of more cosmopolitan 'liberal' (mainly students and white collar workers) and the working classes who see their communities fractured and ghettoised.

The controlling oligarchy can then shrink the welfare state and lower the tax burden on their wealth as they convince the working classes that immigrants are the problem. All the while encouraging mass immigration and ensuring the charade can carry on as ethnic conflict is highlighted over class conflict.
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Old 29-10-2018, 13:19   #13
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Because the divisions in modern Britain aren't immigrant versus non immigrant.

It's rich v poor, town v country, class v class.

The only way you end up with a homogenous society with no divisions is through some pretty brutal social engineering, and it's not at all clear what benefits we'd get from that.

Perhaps you could explain some?
I didn't say immigrants were the only split. Many fractures and splits have been deliberately stoked up, wedges being hammered into them by our enemies.
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Old 29-10-2018, 13:20   #14
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FWIW "diversity is our strength" is a soundbite that I think overstates the benefits a bit. It's been seized upon as some kind of benchmark that people have, either mistakenly or probably deliberately, that should absolve any and all issues surrounding race and or religion. Look, a white and a black having a scrap over their skin colour, but but "diversity is our strength guys! right?!" - very trite, but about as insightful as pointing at people dying in a hospital and going 'But, I thought hospitals are supposed to HEAL people?!"

It's a bit of a perfect solution fallacy you like to bring up a lot, as if the inevitable re-amalgamation of race in a globalised world is going to be perfect with no friction and resistance from groups who have linked their fleeting existence, identity and self-worth to the happenstance of what ethnicity they were born with. No, some will want to preserve it, no matter how futile it quite clearly is in the wider context of our civilisation. They'll do so with political resitance, violent resistance etc. But the trajectory is set isn't it? Unless you want to ban all travel and keep nations within their walls with a ban on shagging anyone still on your side of the wall who isn't your race. No, won't happen, so it's a managed decline of the individual races over the coming centuries.

Diversity is pretty irrelevant in the greater scheme of things IMO, so it might not be a massively heralded strength like some probably believe, but it also isn't some fundamental weakness. You're being hysterical when you say it's the end of mankind ffs. There's genuine threats to our future you're completely blasé about, but amazingly those are brushed away as being overblown or flat out made up.
You've done it again bro... I never said a homogenous society would be perfect, of course anywhere there are living creatures there will be some degree of conflict, whether it's two white men competing over a woman, or sparrows competing over seeds. But today's society in the West is objectively fucking insane and heading to hell.
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Old 29-10-2018, 13:24   #15
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A few of the ways the system divides us, off the top of my head...

Race obviously, but also nationality (Welsh / Irish / Scottish nationalism is applauded, English nationalism is called racist and dangerous)

Age, young v old

Rich v poor

Male v female

North v south

Working class v middle class

Workers v benefit claimants

Leavers v remainers

And so on.

While we're all fighting between ourselves, these cunts are laughing their asses off at how easy we are to manipulate.

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But the oldest political trick is to juxtapose us versus them, then claim to protect 'us'.

Farage does it, Vote Leave did it, Trump does it.

But you're immune, right?
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I always saw Brexit as a tiny step towards being a means to an end, nothing more. So, immune to the establishment remain v leave narrative? Yes. You, not. You present things in the way you've been told to present them, all the time. You think only in ways which have been set out for you. A true sheep.
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Fractures are bad

I mean look at fracking
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Good analogy tbh

Start fucking with things which shouldn't be fucked with, and you get earthquakes, literal or political and social
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