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Old 08-11-2018, 17:07   #2411
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Do you genuinely think that PJW and CNN are equivalent, or are you just being an edgelord?
CNN is far more dangerous and far more widely spread propaganda.
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Old 08-11-2018, 17:31   #2412
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The fact they both produce propaganda, sure. The whole 'fake news' meme thing is overdone but the reason that it stuck is because it's partly true.
What are the examples of CNN being fake?

I'm interested because I'd like to see it, and also, compare it to the Trump administration's preferred news source (Fox) and weigh up if it's more than a mere counterbalance or if it's genuinely more insidious?
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Old 08-11-2018, 17:56   #2413
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I don't really care enough to go digging that deep, but it's more about bias; perhaps the term 'fake' is too strong, but I stand by the term propaganda because its coverage is heavily slanted. Just as Fox is heavily slanted to the other wing, they're both insidious and help create this weird divide and division that plays to people's internal bias.

There's a reason twitter looks like this:


People's cognitive maps are disparate and get reinforced by biased media who know they get more ratings playing to the gallery rather than really trying to get to 'truth'.

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/cnn-media-bias seems a fair site to judge.

What is most interesting about that though is the split of liberal and conservative is really only focused and highly disparate on certain emotive issues, there is still much more that both views agree on than not but I can see the Dems starting to lean further left to 'globalist' values and the GOP edging towards nationalism.
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Old 08-11-2018, 18:40   #2414
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Well what are the examples of their unfair slant against Trump that aren't true?

I'm aware of media biases but that's different to CNN being called 'fake news' and 'enemy of the people' in a conference by the President? Obviously a President who is very controversial, prone to scandal and gaffs is going to get more negative coverage than his predecessors. Stupid person doing stupid things, it'd be worse if CNN opted to ignore it to avoid doing "too much" negative coverage, as that's disingenuous and is what Fox News are doing. If a President is shit 80% of the time then sorry but it's accurate if the coverage is 80% negative.

Trump says Fox is fairer, but what he really means is they are loyal to him, if he does something retarded, they try to spin it as best as possible or skip over it completely. CNN don't, so they are portrayed as being 'negative' but very often, or at least when I've looked a bit, they're just repeating the facts of what Trump has said, with a video of Trump himself saying it. Whereas on the other channel Fox will be banging on about Obama again instead.

Or, as is the case right now with PJW, he's trying to worm his way into making a point nobody is disputing. CNN are right to show the footage and air Acosta's claim that he didn't touch the girl, but PJW and the anti-CNN crowd are being misleading and saying 'HE DOES, YOU CAN SEE THE CONTACT IS MADE. FAKE NEWS AGAIN' - but it's not the actual physical contact CNN are saying didn't happen, they clearly mean he didn't touch the intern in the context the White House are accusing. Stuff like that isn't 'fake news' it's just pedantry to try and engineer a falsehood from someone when you can reasonably see that wasn't the intention.
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Old 08-11-2018, 19:21   #2415
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It's also strange how he's leapt into defence of women, as though Acosta had punched her in the face. Or grabbed her by the pussy....
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Great, stag will be along in a minute to regurgitate his baseless toss.
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Old 09-11-2018, 00:07   #2418
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Old 09-11-2018, 09:57   #2419
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I wonder how much of a shitstorm would have erupted had Obama refused to honour fallen US troops because of a small amount of rain?
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