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Old 17-08-2018, 15:19   #991
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Because there's a popular movement of spastics who love to play the victim and say Tommy Robinson, Boris Johnson, Alex Jones etc are just victims of censorship and freedom of speech is being destroyed by "the left"

Facebook comments are full of people who think they're more principled because they say "As much as I disagree with what Alex Jones says, I will defend his right to say it!" - they think they're in the middle of V for Vendetta
They’re are plenty who want to censor
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Old 17-08-2018, 15:31   #992
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Old 17-08-2018, 15:36   #993
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It's not censoring though is it? Alex Jones can still publish his crap on his own site, but he's trying to orchestrate violence from the back of obvious lies. Why would social media companies make exceptions for him to break their own rules, but not other people.

Unless you want youtube videos showing people how to make bombs and encourage people to use them to kill people, you accept that these companies have a duty to remove dangerous content.
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Old 17-08-2018, 15:41   #994
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Alex Jones is dangerous content
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Antifa orchestrating and celebrating violence against normal white people is okay though
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Government propaganda kills more people than Alex Jones
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Old 17-08-2018, 15:54   #997
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Because there's a popular movement of spastics who love to play the victim and say Tommy Robinson, Boris Johnson, Alex Jones etc are just victims of censorship and freedom of speech is being destroyed by "the left"

Facebook comments are full of people who think they're more principled because they say "As much as I disagree with what Alex Jones says, I will defend his right to say it!" - they think they're in the middle of V for Vendetta
Unfortunately censorship seems to be very one sided these days. Those popular movements you refer to are on both sides of the argument, but rather than act as a balanced platform the media and tech companies rather take sides, why because it courts controversy which means more clicks, more outrage = more advertisement revenue, more data collection.

It's all about the money, not people's right to freedom of speech. Just look at twitter who was the only platform that didn't ban Alex Jones (don't know if they have now) but twitter is struggling to attract new subscribers, however in not banning him like the rest were all over the mainstream media. I bet traffic increased. = Revenue.

I was reading Alex Jones has moved to another new video platform, and taken 26+ thousand subscribers, I'm sure that will benefit them.

It's all about the money.
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Old 17-08-2018, 15:54   #998
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the 4 videos youtube removed (before they were re-uploaded by InfoWars and led to a full account ban for 30 days) apparently contained rants from him about the parents of sandy hook being crisis actors, the children weren't killed, etc, its all a conspiracy to take away your guns, time to fight, time to rise up etc

its no different to what we call "extremist content" when it's isis propaganda channels being closed down because it is inciting violence and extremist views
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Unfortunately censorship seems to be very one sided these days. Those popular movements you refer to are on both sides of the argument, but rather than act as a balanced platform the media and tech companies rather take sides, why because it courts controversy which means more clicks, more outrage = more advertisement revenue, more data collection.

It's all about the money, not people's right to freedom of speech. Just look at twitter who was the only platform that didn't ban him (don't know if they have now) but twitter is struggling to attract new subscribers but in not banning him like the rest were all over the mainstream media, I bet traffic increased. = Revenue.

I was reading Alex Jones has moved to another new video platform, and taken 26+ thousand subscribers, I'm sure that will benefit them.

It's all about the money.
Occupy London (left-wing) has been taken off Facebook today for similar reasons so how is it one sided?

I have no doubt Jones' knows full well he's not actually being oppressed, he makes a living out of this, in fact, it's pretty likely that he's pushing YouTube's buttons on purpose to get banned, act outraged, in the hopes he'll gain more viral attention from people wanting to see for themselves what was worthy of a YouTube ban. It's a bit like when PR agencies used to make an advert deliberately "too hot for TV" so it has an sort of badge of honour and goes viral online instead.
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It's not censoring though is it? Alex Jones can still publish his crap on his own site, but he's trying to orchestrate violence from the back of obvious lies. Why would social media companies make exceptions for him to break their own rules, but not other people.

Unless you want youtube videos showing people how to make bombs and encourage people to use them to kill people, you accept that these companies have a duty to remove dangerous content.
Not sure Alex Jones was teaching people how to make bombs. I’m not sure we can know EXACTLY why they made the decision but I’m sure the conversation was along the lines of...

“What about Alex Jones”
“I don’t like him.”
“You too? Let’s ban him.”

Rather than several media companies suddenly realising his behaviour ambiguously broke some rule ALL ON THE SAME DAY.

Also, people say Tommy Robinson was in jail because he broke the law but so did Nelson Mandela - I’m not comparing the two but the message from both this and Alex Jones is that there are plenty of people who immediately point to The Rules when someone they dislike gets arrested or censored.

Plus, social media is a total bag of shit anyway.
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