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Old 07-03-2018, 10:38   #11
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The bloke sounds like an absolute cock and has joked about deliberately trolling MP's getting rape threats. So I'm not sure his vision of freedom of speech is particularly one that should be taken very seriously.

But ultimately it's a few students going a bit over the top in a good old fashioned protest and what they've done gives the impression largely of backfiring. The guy obviously just craves the attention and they would have been more effective in dealing with it by trying to persuade people to not turn up and starve him of that attention, rather than giving him what he wants.
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Old 07-03-2018, 14:05   #12
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There is an element of that, in general media has a way of distorting reality and youtube/twitter is merely the latest front line except it's interactive and gives anyone a voice who wants one. It certainly is a culture war and the best way to fight that is through warping perceptions. You seem to think there aren't consequences to this though, this isn't merely about reinforcing egos and entertainment, where as I believe these currents will determine the future of society.
If so much is at stake, why did the guy at the focus of this usual drama, Zargon, cancel his inaugural "Liberalist Movement" meet-up cos it clashed with dungeons and dragons night ?

I THINK I'M SAFE TO ASSUME things aren't quite as bad as people like him make out, and they enjoy the attention and melodrama (often of their own making) because it feeds into the whole youtube personality they have cultivated.
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Social media has created a bit of an attention seeking society.
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Old 16-03-2018, 11:05   #14
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In Britain in the 21st century you can be punished for mocking gods. You can be expelled from the kingdom, frozen out, if you dare to diss Allah. Perversely adopting medieval Islamic blasphemy laws, modern Britain has made it clear that it will tolerate no individual who says scurrilous or reviling things about the Islamic god or prophet. Witness the authorities’ refusal to grant entrance to the nation to the alt-right Christian YouTuber Lauren Southern. Her crime? She once distributed a leaflet in Luton with the words ‘Allah is gay, Allah is trans, Allah is lesbian…’, and according to the letter she received from the Home Office informing her of her ban from Britain, such behaviour poses a ‘threat to the fundamental interests of [British] society’.
No free speech if you might offend Muslims...
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The irony of Brendan O'Neil complaining about border control
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Old 16-03-2018, 11:21   #16
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He's an open borders advocate isn't he, so why is it ironic he wants to let a contentious person speak?
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I get where they're coming from, I do think they've overreacted in this case but gotta be careful what we wish for. He's advocating letting people who want to rant and be vile still come to Britain because that's free speech, that goes for the muslims we deport/want deported because they don't "respect the poppy" and are outspoken against our way of live, culture etc. We start saying stuff like 'go home then if you don't like it' etc etc.
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Old 16-03-2018, 11:30   #18
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg11-HwJRts

doesn't sound like it. I'm sure he's probably spouted off many opposing CONTROVERSIAL OPINIONS though, sticking it to the PCLE and all that
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Brendan O'Neil is a pointless contrarian polemicist.
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Easy to play the man not the ball, eh?
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