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Old 04-04-2017, 14:09   #1
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https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...aroo-committee

about sums it up

I assume his being found guilty is a mere formality. Even though, like someone else in history, he literally did nothing wrong
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Old 04-04-2017, 15:01   #2
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Ken Livingstone will learn later whether he faces Labour disciplinary action over his comments about Adolf Hitler.

The former London mayor was hauled before a disciplinary panel after claiming the Nazi leader supported Zionism in the 1930s.

He could be expelled if Labour bosses decide his comments were "grossly detrimental" to the party.

On Tuesday morning he blamed the Jewish Chronicle and Labour MPs for misreporting his comments.

And he said that if he was expelled from Labour he would take legal action to fight the decision.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39494038
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:14   #3
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"When Hitler won his election in 1932, his policy then was that Jews should be moved to Israel. He was supporting Zionism before he went mad and ended up killing six million Jews."
If that's what he said then I don't agree with the outrage. What is the issue people have?

- Hitler did win his election. I don't know why but I have seen people bristle at the fact that Hitler was democratically elected at first.
- The Nazis did have policies surrounding deporting Jews before they went down the rabbit hole. IIRC there was one to stick them all on Madagascar.
- 6 million killed is the historically accepted figure, it's not like he said 1 million or 600k Jews.

The only thing that's debatable is saying a Nazi policy to migrate them to Israel is the same as supporting Zionism. Establishing a Jewish state is one thing, but forced deportation for millions is another. I don't think it's technically supporting Zionism if it's about forcing Jewish deportation and re-settlement, considering how much control and say they'd really have over it.

It's hardly a bombshell quote though.
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:42   #4
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Chief Rabbi says Labour has FAILED Jews as the party refuses to expel Ken Livingstone over remarks Hitler supported Zionism
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...our-party.html

'I am ashamed': Deputy leader Tom Watson condemns his party for letting 'unrepentant' Red Ken stay in Labour despite anti-Semitism storm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-Red-Ken.html

The absurd hysteria whenever you say anything the Jews don't like, even if it's true. Especially if it's true.
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Initial Nazi policy towards German Jews

The policy of the German government was to promote Jewish emigration from Germany, and as a consequence it promoted and encouraged the activities of Zionist organisations while at the same time repressing anti-Zionist organisations such as the German National Jews, especially as they were among those who advocated Jewish assimilation in Germany.[9] The Zionists were commended in the SS newspaper by Heydrich for what he interpreted as their racialist position, and Jewish assimilationists were chastised for denying their race.
Association of German National Jews - Wikipedia

Which also perfectly vindicates what Ken Livingstone has said.
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He faces another investigation.

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Ex-London mayor Ken Livingstone faces a new investigation into his comments about Hitler, Jeremy Corbyn says.

The Labour leader said that since being suspended on Tuesday night, Mr Livingstone had "continued to make offensive remarks which could open him to further disciplinary action".

These will now be considered by the party's ruling executive committee.

Mr Livingstone has defended his comments about Hitler and Zionism and vowed to fight his suspension.

Mr Corbyn, a longstanding ally of the former London mayor, said: "Ken Livingstone's comments have been grossly insensitive, and he has caused deep offence and hurt to the Jewish community.

"Labour's independently elected National Constitutional Committee has found Ken guilty of bringing the party into disrepute and suspended him for two years.

"It is deeply disappointing that, despite his long record of standing up to racism, Ken has failed to acknowledge or apologise for the hurt he has caused. Many people are understandably upset that he has continued to make offensive remarks which could open him to further disciplinary action.

"Since initiating the disciplinary process, I have not interfered with it and respect the independence of the party's disciplinary bodies. But Ken's subsequent comments and actions will now be considered by the National Executive Committee after representations from party members."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39499640
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meanwhile the government gets on with doing whatever the fuck it wants because the main opposition are tearing themselves apart. He just needs to stfu
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government is hardly united tbh, they're on the brink of going to war on themselves and we're only a few weeks into article 50, give it 6 months when the reality of the deal really starts to shape up and then they'll start kicking off as well
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meanwhile the government gets on with doing whatever the fuck it wants because the main opposition are tearing themselves apart. He just needs to stfu
He's being treated unfairly, he has a right to defend himself. He is being portrayed as something he is not - a 'racist' and 'anti-semite' which is nonsense.

The irony is that if the Jews and their pathetic lackeys like John Mann hadn't made such a fuss over the original comments Livingstone made, the whole thing would have garnered little to no media attention and would all have blown over in a day.

They can't know Ken Livingstone very well if they think he's someone to roll over and meekly back down, when he thinks he's in the right about something.
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Anyone on the receiving end of these allegations has a right to clear their name.
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