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Old 12-05-2018, 16:35   #1
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In a stretch of the M4 that pointlessly goes down to 50 for no reason

I always thought those average speed checks were just to scare you into driving slower


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Old 12-05-2018, 16:45   #2
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The Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) issued revised speed enforcement policy guidance in 2013. It suggests that enforcement will normally occur when a driver exceeds the speed limit by a particular margin. The particular margin is normally 10 per cent over the speed limit plus 2 mph. The guidance sets guidelines for when it would be appropriate to issue a fixed penalty notice or for the driver to attend a speed awareness course, and when it becomes appropriate to issue a summons. These are guidelines only and a police officer has discretion to act outside of them providing he acts fairly, consistently and proportionately.
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Old 12-05-2018, 16:50   #3
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Old 12-05-2018, 17:05   #4
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They had speed limits of something absurd like 40 for a few miles of a major dual carriageway near me last year (normally 70), everyone ignored it because it would have been ridiculous to drive at that speed. They were apparently signs left over from roadworks which were now gone. But it did make me feel a bit anxious I could get a fine in the post. I never actually saw any cameras but that's not a guarantee is it.

Anyway maybe if you'd been doing 56 you'd have got away with it, if 57 was the threshold of 10% + 2.

I'd never knowingly 'speed' through what seems to be a genuine restriction because this thread can be the outcome.
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Old 12-05-2018, 17:07   #5
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Old 12-05-2018, 17:11   #6
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Ah I thought the margin being 10% + 2 would mean 57 was ok and 58 was not.

Apparently anything less than 10%+9 means you can do a speed awareness course but they last 4 hours and cost about the same as the fine so FUCK THAT


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Old 12-05-2018, 17:23   #7
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Depends if you have points at the mo and are worried about totting up and/or if your insurance will be adversely affected by them

But if not then yes fuck that waste of time course right off
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Ah I thought the margin being 10% + 2 would mean 57 was ok and 58 was not.
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What are the ACPO guidelines for speeding prosecutions?

A: These guidelines set out the minimum figures at which a Fixed Penalty Notice and a Court Summons would normally be considered appropriate for a speeding offence, if there are no other aggravating circumstances. The minimum figure for a FPN is the posted limit + 10% + 2 mph. These figures are shown in the table below:

The ACPO Speed Enforcement Guidelines
Speed Limit (mph) Fixed Penalty Summons
20 25 35
30 35 50
40 46 66
50 57 76
60 68 86
70 79 96
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Apparently anything less than 10%+9 means you can do a speed awareness course but they last 4 hours and cost about the same as the fine so FUCK THAT
Costs the same? Indeed, fuck off... especially as it's a farce. 'Speed awareness' when you were doing a low speed on a motorway ffs. You're in more danger of falling asleep through boredom.
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Old 12-05-2018, 20:31   #9
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Fucked my motorcycle off end of last year as was getting stupid. 90mph wheelie and a police chase made my mind up
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I used to come home and look my daughters in the eyes (aged 4/5) and battle my conscious about whether it was actually worth it . Almost cost me everything.

I know I made the correct decision. But honestly I’m cold turkey. Motorcycles are a drug more potent than anything I’ve ever experienced. And you know me, I’ve tried a few.
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