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Old 05-11-2018, 16:07   #11
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Moderate amounts of alcohol are actually good for you, probably because it stresses and strengthens the waste systems. Quite where the line is from moderate protective to damaging though is probably lower than you hope.
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Old 05-11-2018, 16:18   #12
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My nurse friend told me that the biggest cause of liver disease is NOT the alcohol itself, like most people think, but the generally unhealthy lifestyle and shit diet of most alcoholics. I eat really healthily and exercise a lot... I'm not starving myself and sleeping in a doorway with a bottle of whisky every night
Where did your nurse friend get this info from?

Anyway yes carry on, everything will be fine, I'm sure

Not like the graveyard isn't full of 'normal drinkers' who thought it wouldn't happen to them.

You aren't close to normal btw, you're a raving alcoholic ffs
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Moderate amounts of alcohol are actually good for you
An assertion which has never been proven btw

Sounds more like a sop to the drinks industry, to propagate this myth.
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Old 05-11-2018, 17:14   #14
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There's no conclusive study that moderate alcohol is 'good' for you, i.e a net benefit overall. It's about balance. A glass of wine now and again might help your blood pressure but the alcohol is still harmful to your mouth, throat, stomach, liver and kidneys etc. So the real advice is just quit the booze and lower your blood pressure another way. I drink but I don't kid myself that it's anything more than a harmful vice that I enjoy. You're on a slippery slope when you're legitimately trying to convince yourself tequila slammers are a health kick.

The nurse saying booze doesn't cause liver disease is talking absolute shit. You can't drink to excess and be alright so long as you eat healthily. Booze is part of your diet, it goes down the same hole in your face ffs, so your diet on balance is still rubbish if you're washing down fish and spinach with 3 glasses of wine, and a double whiskey.

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An assertion which has never been proven btw

Sounds more like a sop to the drinks industry, to propagate this myth.
There is actually data to suggest it.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...l-study-claims

I'll stick with the odd pint and glass of whisk(e)y.
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What I said is true though - it's not proven, it's an assertion. Correlation doesn't equal causation.

Anyway yes I expect the odd drink is neither here nor there, but the idea it has been factually proven that a small amount is definitively GOOD for you needs to be challenged
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There is actually data to suggest it.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...l-study-claims

I'll stick with the odd pint and glass of whisk(e)y.
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I'm much more worried about shit carbs and vegetable oil.
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