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Old 12-09-2018, 09:05   #1
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Default British workers 800 worse off a year than 10 years ago

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45487695

The BBC says it is due to the 'financial crisis'. But what else has happened in those 10 years?

It's a puzzler isn't it?

Because all the 'economic growth' and mass immigration during that time, which we are told (lied to) repeatedly benefits us, and yet people are, on average, worse off.

The BBC offers no evidence that the lower wages are due to the 'financial crisis' and not the rather more obvious culprit that the UK has been one of the world's foremost destinations for a glut of endless cheap labour which has crushed wages for those at the bottom the most.

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The implication here is that the financial crisis caused lower wages over the last 10 years. Whilst it’s obviously a factor, the biggest reason is the accumulated effect of opening up our labour market to the world and allowing businesses to hire wholesale from lower wage countries with no concern for our community. This was deliberate Blair policy and is the main reason people voted for Brexit.
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Old 12-09-2018, 09:45   #2
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It's not the 'rather more obvious' culprit because economically the UK's boom years coincided with more liberal policies on immigration. You've actually admitted that before, and fell back on the 'money isn't everything' and 'I'd rather us be poorer but more sustainable' arguments.

2008 was a financial crisis and followed on with all sorts of ramification on jobs, wages and interest rates etc. Immigration has continued in the background, but what you're saying is that it had no drag on earnings prior to 2008, but ever since it's the prime suspect, and what happened in 2008 onwards is irrelevant? I don't buy it, you're ignoring a lug of inconvenient data so your immigration bashing theory can work.
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Old 12-09-2018, 09:55   #3
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Old 12-09-2018, 09:59   #4
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Wog apocalypse has been desecrating our way of life for 20 years, no more visible than in the last decade and were at peak wog

It’s fucking hideous
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Tbh it’s the Eastern Europeans that have driven the wages down as they are skilled/semi skilled

The pakis and wogs have just brought absolute filth to our towns and the dirty cunts need fucking off back to their caveman tribal countries to live in the shit they so desire
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one does wonder what the pakis will do when the taxis drive themselves and burger king install robot burger flippers
will we be enriched by even more kebab shops?
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https://fullfact.org/immigration/imm...s-immigration/

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In the period 1997-2005 when the UK experienced significant immigration of people coming for work, one major study finds that an increase in the number of immigrants corresponding to 1% of the UK-born working-age population resulted in an increase in average wages of 0.1 to 0.3%.

Another study, for the period 2000-2007, found that a 1% increase in the share of immigrants in the UK's working-age population conversely lowers the average wage by 0.3%.

These studies, which relate to different time periods, reach opposing conclusions but they agree that the effects of immigration on averages wages are relatively small.
So it does have an effect, but it's minimal. It's at its worst for low-skilled, but even then, under a 1% decrease over several years. So when you're talking about 2008-2018 it's negligible when compared to the financial downturn and the subsequent fiscal consolidation we underwent.

So either presumably you were unaware your theory is not evidence-based, or you did but prefer to ignore it and seek comfort in a delusional point of view that doesn't challenge you. Perfectly entitled to do that, but no reasonable person is going to listen to you over stuff like this because the minute they fact-check you, they'll realise you're just making stuff up.
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Since I’ve become a truck driver I’ve seen so much more of the country. I knew it was bad around stoke, Leicester, Manchester, Walsall/wolves and the small bit of Birmingham I’d seen. But I’ve seen so much more now. It’s absolutely fucking hideous. I’ve spent 2 year driving all over the place and it’s fucking filthy.

The warehouses and distribution centres I spend day 60% of my time delivering too are over run with Eastern Europeans. The transport industry has at least 50% Eastern European drivers. This is just 2 areas where they are keeping wages low and preventing wage growth.

When I’m not driving to national and regional distribution centres I’m doing little drops in towns and cities all over the country within 4.5 hrs driving from stoke (as I don’t night out) So thats everywhere apart from Cornwall and anywhere north of Carlisle or northern Yorkshire

The Asian areas are obvious and plentiful in every town. They are filthy. They seem to use the street as a rubbish tip and have more rubbish then white areas ?! This is the same everywhere I go ffs. They don’t integrate, they form their own territories. They out breed us and their kids don’t like our kids.
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So it does have an effect, but it's minimal. It's at its worst for low-skilled, but even then, under a 1% decrease over several years. So when you're talking about 2008-2018 it's negligible when compared to the financial downturn and the subsequent fiscal consolidation we underwent.

So either presumably you were unaware your theory is not evidence-based, or you did but prefer to ignore it and seek comfort in a delusional point of view that doesn't challenge you. Perfectly entitled to do that, but no reasonable person is going to listen to you over stuff like this because the minute they fact-check you, they'll realise you're just making stuff up.
That was over ten years ago and with less immigration than now, also pre financial crisis YOU THICK CUNT
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