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Old 07-03-2018, 23:42   #101
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Bit odd how retarded some people are. And even odder that they're lionised.
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Old 08-03-2018, 10:02   #102
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Yeah this is a freedom of speech grey area isn't it. I personally believe that I should be able to say "God is a cunt", "Allah is a cunt", "The holocaust never happened", "Hitler was great" etc. etc. without fear of being jailed or killed or whatever. <not that I think Hitler was great or that the holocaust didn't happen!>

What I shouldn't be able to do is to incite violence, to rally people to attack Christians or send out hate mail and suchlike. THAT should be against the law, expressing a belief shouldn't be.
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Old 08-03-2018, 10:10   #103
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Pluralism good. Incitement bad.
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Old 08-03-2018, 11:05   #104
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Aye, basically.
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Old 08-03-2018, 11:16   #105
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Yeah this is a freedom of speech grey area isn't it. I personally believe that I should be able to say "God is a cunt", "Allah is a cunt", "The holocaust never happened", "Hitler was great" etc. etc. without fear of being jailed or killed or whatever. <not that I think Hitler was great or that the holocaust didn't happen!>

What I shouldn't be able to do is to incite violence, to rally people to attack Christians or send out hate mail and suchlike. THAT should be against the law, expressing a belief shouldn't be.
The problem is where do you draw the line, and how, when there's no sudden change from just talking to inciting violence? People are incited differently, by different things.

They're often interconnected as well, expressing a belief in holocaust denial tends to coincide with general harassment and hatred to Jews.
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Old 08-03-2018, 11:49   #106
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Yep, that's the problem, people are incited differently. That's what needs to change, people need to chill the fuck out. That's the law that I will pass when I rule the world.
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Old 08-03-2018, 12:04   #107
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There is no law against 'denying' the 'holocaust' in the UK so the case against the woman who sang those songs on YouTube should fail, in fact it should never have been brought.

I say should. I quite expect her to be found guilty in the current climate.
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Old 08-03-2018, 12:44   #108
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Communities Secretary Sajid Javid has told British and American Jewish representatives that he would “fight those who undermine Israel”.

The cabinet minister, who was speaking at a meeting with the American Jewish Committee and the Board of Deputies in London, told his audience that boycotts of Israel were “unjustified and counter-productive”.

He said: “For all its bluster, the BDS campaign is most notable for its lack of success. Trade between Israel and the UK is booming, tourism in both directions is thriving.”
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Old 08-03-2018, 13:42   #109
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Old 21-03-2018, 10:16   #110
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