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Old 20-12-2015, 22:06   #11
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I just don't have a great deal of time for someone who staggers out of his bed in the middle of the afternoon, declares that we shouldditch the nnotion of paid work and then waits for others to fill in the blanks because his paucity of intellect precludes his doing so.
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Old 20-12-2015, 22:25   #12
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Where have I said we should ditch the notion of paid work? I got up at 7 today, so got anymore baseless sniping to make yourself feel better?

You say you don't have time for me, but you certainly have a great deal of time you waste repeating trite denigrations, perhaps you should start widening your perspective or spending time with your family. I'm sure someone with your vast intellect can think of far more constructive use of their time than sniping at the unemployed and "hippies". Just a thought.
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Old 20-12-2015, 22:31   #13
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Where have I said we should ditch the notion of paid work?
You haven't, and nor have I. It's a typical straw man.
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Old 20-12-2015, 22:40   #14
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Where have I said we should ditch the notion of paid work? I got up at 7 today, so got anymore baseless sniping to make yourself feel better?

You say you don't have time for me, but you certainly have a great deal of time you waste repeating trite denigrations, perhaps you should start widening your perspective or spending time with your family. I'm sure someone with your vast intellect can think of far more constructive use of their time than sniping at the unemployed and "hippies". Just a thought.
OK, so what *is* your point? What should we change, and how?
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Old 20-12-2015, 23:14   #15
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Sounds... Abstract. So what's your alternative?
Sit around with their free money?
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Old 20-12-2015, 23:15   #16
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Where have I said we should ditch the notion of paid work? I got up at 7 today, so got anymore baseless sniping to make yourself feel better?

You say you don't have time for me, but you certainly have a great deal of time you waste repeating trite denigrations, perhaps you should start widening your perspective or spending time with your family. I'm sure someone with your vast intellect can think of far more constructive use of their time than sniping at the unemployed and "hippies". Just a thought.
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Old 20-12-2015, 23:16   #17
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OK, so what *is* your point? What should we change, and how?
What's your point? The objective value of work? That there is a moral pride to work hard in service of others?
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Old 20-12-2015, 23:29   #18
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What's your point? The objective value of work? That there is a moral pride to work hard in service of others?
True you could be like North Korea, work for the benefit of the state not the individual.

That article states that there will still be need for some jobs just not the menial jobs which is fair comment but to replace those jobs with say robots as suggested would mean investment from the companies but why invest when it is cheaper to employ someone?

It is the same argument for outsourcing to India because it is cheap, when it becomes more expensive those jobs are relocated to another area.

The only way to dispose of the menial jobs is for companies to invest.
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Seen this? Thought it might interest you. Some wisdom in the comments too.

Basically questioning the conventional wisdom of the desirability and necessity of full time 'work' for most of our lives. Something I've long questioned.

I know this thread will attract the usual trolls who can't escape their programming.

http://www.returnofkings.com/75222/w...s-unemployment
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Many jobs don't need doing, they are not benefiting society, just enriching some cunt somewhere. Or make-work.

Look at that arsehole who runs Sports Direct, he's a billionaire and essentially owns slaves, although we don't CALL them that these days because slavery has been 'abolished'... except the truth nobody likes to admit is, it still exists, it's just been renamed because our society has agreed to share in the delusion.
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