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Old 14-09-2017, 00:16   #11
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Just watched the final episode of this shite, at least it showed how he got royally stitched-up by his defence and the judge, which tallied with what he himself has written about it since.
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Old 14-09-2017, 08:34   #12
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Stitched up in what respect? His guilt isn't in question is it?
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Old 14-09-2017, 10:04   #13
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Stitched up in what respect? His guilt isn't in question is it?
No his guilt isn't in question. Him being behind bars isn't a miscarriage of justice in a real sense, but it arguably is in a legal sense.

His arrest hinged upon the FBI having probable cause under the law, to enter his home. This was obtained under flimsy pretenses. If the probable cause were to be proven invalid then everything else that stemmed from it would be fruit of the poisonous tree and thrown out as inadmissible, and the FBI would have had no case.

At the pre-trial hearing, the judge denied this motion. So he basically rubber-stamped the FBI having the warrant on a nod and a wink, rather than any genuine probable cause. This would have been grounds for an appeal later on, but... read on.

Then at the trial, Ted (I'll use his first name as it's easier to type) found that his legal team had lied to him and were trying to use an insanity defence, which he was opposed to. He said he would rather lose and get the death penalty, than be deemed insane. So he then asked the judge if he could get new lawyers, as his current ones had lied to him, and he no longer had confidence in them.

The judge DENIED his motion and said it would waste time. Ted then said okay I'll represent myself, as per my constitutional right. It won't waste time as I'll start immediately, right now. Also DENIED. The judge said that because he (the judge) agreed with his lawyers that he wasn't sane, he wasn't fit to represent himself. Even though in court he was completely calm, aware of his surroundings, highly articulate, polite etc. etc. Basically the judge didn't want to give Ted any platform to speak at all. That was all it was. He had to keep his lawyers who wanted to throw him under the bus.

In the end he had two choices: insanity plea, or plead guilty. He did the latter. But the price of this was he had to forego any right of appeal about anything regarding how the trial or pre-trial was conducted.

So as you see, a complete stitch-up. He was denied his constitutional right to a fair trial with fair representation.
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Old 14-09-2017, 13:58   #14
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Sanity is an interesting grey area though isn't it... he clearly isn't "sane" in the normal sense, because he plotted and executed a bombing campaign, which is not really a normal thing to do lol... but yes he does seem very intelligent and cognisant despite that.

But yes the courts should always follow due process.
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Intelligence and insanity aren't mutually exclusive.
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Old 14-09-2017, 14:32   #16
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Sanity is an interesting grey area though isn't it... he clearly isn't "sane" in the normal sense, because he plotted and executed a bombing campaign, which is not really a normal thing to do lol... but yes he does seem very intelligent and cognisant despite that.

But yes the courts should always follow due process.
He used violence for political ends, which to me makes him no worse than our glorious leaders like Bush, Blair or Obama. The only difference is the bodycount of our leaders makes Ted look like a rank amateur, and their violence is deemed legal, because the same system they work for, says it's legal. One single drone strike on an Afghan wedding killed and maimed more people than Ted's entire campaign. Or the 500,000 dead Iraqi children which US-led sanctions directly caused, which Madeleine Albright said was a price worth paying.

Ted's no worse than any of those scumbags and arguably far better. At least he wanted to change the world for the better and did what he did because he thought mankind was headed for disaster. He didn't do it for money, power or fame.
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He used violence for political ends, which to me makes him no worse than our glorious leaders like Bush, Blair or Obama. The only difference is the bodycount of our leaders makes Ted look like a rank amateur, and their violence is deemed legal, because the same system they work for, says it's legal. One single drone strike on an Afghan wedding killed and maimed more people than Ted's entire campaign. Or the 500,000 dead Iraqi children which US-led sanctions directly caused, which Madeleine Albright said was a price worth paying.

Ted's no worse than any of those scumbags and arguably far better. At least he wanted to change the world for the better and did what he did because he thought mankind was headed for disaster. He didn't do it for money, power or fame.
Just for comparison, when you demand depopulation, how many are you planning to kill?
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watched 3 episodes, dont like the way it jumps in time

gonna watch them all i think
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It is a very badly-made retelling of what in reality is a very compelling story. Maybe it will at least whet your appetite to learn more about his writings and the wider subject of industrial civilisation and its consequences.
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