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Old 19-01-2018, 00:36   #741
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Designated survivor for 1 episode then binned it. Absolute shite which is a shame cos the premise seemed interesting.

Brooklyn 99. Excellent. Santiago ffs, jesus
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Old 19-01-2018, 00:43   #742
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Designated survivor for 1 episode then binned it. Absolute shite which is a shame cos the premise seemed interesting.
Exactly what I thought... sounded potentially awesome but they totally fucked it up.
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Old 19-01-2018, 07:17   #743
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Designated survivor for 1 episode then binned it. Absolute shite which is a shame cos the premise seemed interesting.

Brooklyn 99. Excellent. Santiago ffs, jesus
DS got better after a few episodes, but I agree that there was a real lull before it got going.
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Old 19-01-2018, 09:12   #744
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Designated survivor for 1 episode then binned it. Absolute shite which is a shame cos the premise seemed interesting.

Brooklyn 99. Excellent. Santiago ffs, jesus
Stick with Designated Survivor, I really enjoyed all of season 1 once it got going. Very "24" in style. Season 2 was a lot slower though unfortunately, might bin it if it doesn't pick up.
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Oh, watched The End Of The F*cking World (just 8 episodes, each 20 minutes) over the weekend. Good dark unusual quirky retro comedy.
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Old 22-01-2018, 15:56   #746
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DS got better after a few episodes, but I agree that there was a real lull before it got going.
Right.

I thought because you enjoyed west wing and thick of it then you could know the score and I may have been premature with writing off DS...

So I kept going, all the way to the end of the first season.

You stupid cunting cock, it gets fucking WORSE not better.

The President isn't "incapable or unqualified" - he's fucking perfect, every decision he makes is the right one, he wins every argument and confrontation. It's as if he was actually in the bombblast and is in a coma and we're just seeing his fantasy of becoming president and he's awesome at everything and his wife is constantly happy with him. Fuck off, where is the emotional weight of having their lives turned upside down? Where's the arguments, the frustration? Nothing manifests, they just hug it out.

Everything else also works out, pretty much instantly, every subplot is resolved nicely (Michigan, his son, him being shot through the FUCKING CHEST with a high powered sniper rifle) - nothing can keep our Prez down, he's amaaaazing

It's also dripping in overt patriotism. "Today was a victory .... for democracy "

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Stick with Designated Survivor, I really enjoyed all of season 1 once it got going. Very "24" in style. Season 2 was a lot slower though unfortunately, might bin it if it doesn't pick up.
Wash your mouth out... 24 rapes this to pieces

24 was of course full of shit but at least it was well paced and dramatically engaging etc.
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Old 22-01-2018, 16:29   #748
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'Once it got going' lol ffs, the plot moves at break-neck speed, and it doesn't credit the audience with the ability to read into anything, it's literally spelt out every time there's a "twist"

I have a question though. The conspirators want McGleish to be President. They decide the BEST way to achieve this is to risk him running to a safe room inside a building that goes up like an atom bomb, emerging as a survivor (barely, great plan, get your asset almost killed) and to then get nominated as VP to the new Designated Survivor President, who they try and assassinate seconds after their man is sworn in. Bit impatient?

It's made clear they have huge influence and resources within the country so urm...

1. Just arrange Gliesh to be dedeciated survivor and then he's President, instantly, and constitutionally. It's not really explained why that wasn't Plan A.

2. He was just a congressman, if he needed to survive to be a prime candidate, why not just lie and pretend to be ill or something? Why did he need to be in the fucking capitol building and have an elaborate bomb shelter built for him?

3. Kirkman, who is presented at first as an out of depth weakling, is more likely to resign than to die, so where was the internal conspiracy to get him to walk the plank and for Gliesh to take over? There's no progress in him strengthening his resolve and moving away from resigning and so they decide they have to kill him. It fell into that in the end, but he had completed his transformation into a hard-ass President by the end of the pilot before he's even got an inkling there's a conspiracy. It's never explored why they think an assassination of a sitting president is a simple step and why must it be done instantly and so publicly? They killed Zakar covertly right under the FBI's nose in a high security prison. Why not poison Kirkman the same way? Gleish could have done that, or a mole in the WH.

4. Why do they kill off anyone who has a whiff about the plot, except the people who knew the most and was ONE interview away from cracking under pressure. They'd have been knocked off first years ago ffs to protect the conspiracy.

It's absolute shite.
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I made it about two episodes in to DS, and it is indeed unadulterated fucking SHITE
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Really enjoying the new series of Inside No. 9, nice black humour
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