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Old 12-04-2010, 12:01   #1
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Minimum wage raise would be horrific
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Old 12-04-2010, 12:17   #4
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Minimum wage raise would be horrific
Why so? It'll probably only be by a couple of pence, they raised it not so long ago with a minimum of fuss if memory serves.
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Why so? It'll probably only be by a couple of pence, they raised it not so long ago with a minimum of fuss if memory serves.
Because minimum wage is the mechanism for mass immigration - a significant raise would be sweetening the deal for anyone who fancies trekking through the Sahara and sailing from Tripoli on a buoy
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Because minimum wage is the mechanism for mass immigration - a significant raise would be sweetening the deal for anyone who fancies trekking through the Sahara and sailing from Tripoli on a buoy
Regardless of whether that holds any truth, keeping the minimum wage low is hardly the way to tackle the problem of illegal immigration.
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Regardless of whether that holds any truth, keeping the minimum wage low is hardly the way to tackle the problem of illegal immigration.
I wasn't referring to illegal immigration - my buoy comment was to illustrate the idea that people willl risk their lives to come here as they can be guranteed a high wage (by their standards).
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I wasn't referring to illegal immigration - my buoy comment was to illustrate the idea that people willl risk their lives to come here as they can be guranteed a high wage (by their standards).
We should drop UK wages in order to make the UK less attractive to illegal immigrants?
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We should drop UK wages in order to make the UK less attractive to illegal immigrants?
Actually, I believe that dropping minimum wage may have the opposite effect - it could decrease competition for jobs and may increase average working class wages.

This is just a theory though, although according to the Rowntree foundation the gap between the rich+poor has not decreased during the minimum wage era.
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