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Old 16-01-2018, 18:04   #631
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Earlier you said it was 'bs' but ok, I tend to agree but these are bit after the fact because there must be something causing these factors which then go on to manifest as poverty, blacks don't just pop into existence having a broken family, it breaks down over time or it perpetually remains broken
Earlier I said simplistically seeing poverty through the lens of race was BS, that doesn't mean that certain demographics don't have particular problems. The point is addressing them from the view of treating the symptom rather than the cause is how I see 'affirmative action'.

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what causes the breakdown of the family unit, what is putting stress on it? generation after generation? we appear to be trying to wash our hands of the problem as society, but I'm not convinced its insular to their own 'community' especially as we all seem keen to admit there's not an intrinsic flaw within black people to be unable to be a family, or hold down a job like white people
The problem isn't 'insular' to black people, for white single parent families the rate is 25%.

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we know one pressure could be institutional racism, lack of given opportunities when young, persistent stereotyping, but we don't really know
I'm sure racism still plays its role, does that mean black people should be given a helping hand? I'd argue such action merely reinforces racism by creating resentment and projecting a false image of 'equality'.

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the issue sort of comes down to this bristling that many seem to have with the idea it actually could be some kind of unfair system, stacking the odds a bit, in which case we could understand why things like 'take a knee' are resonating with them
Society is a pyramid and the reality is black people are generally at the bottom of it, the problem is so are most white people, a few more black people at the top won't change the steep pyramidal structure. I want larger emancipatory change, not tokenism. This is why I object to calling it 'white supremacy', it's nothing of the sort, the tricky thing is that it's more 'wealth supremacy'. This realisation is obviously where the meme of Marxist Communism came in the past. The problem was that decapitating the pyramidal structure doesn't really change anything and ironically it's capitalisms success that is responsible for lifting more people out of poverty than the commies ever managed.
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Old 16-01-2018, 18:22   #632
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One example of the black community not getting its house in order is because it is pandered to by race-baiting politicians like David Lammy MP, who complains there are too many blacks in prison - NOT because too many blacks commit crimes which rightfully put them there, but because of racism and white supremacy.

MLK would be turning in his grave at this sort of bullshit.
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Or Trevor Sinclair (a WEALTHY black man) who, when stopped by police, called them 'white cunts' and accused them of being racist just because they'd stopped a black man.
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Case in point... here's one of the vast number of black gang members in London, making a gang sign - what use is someone like this to society? Indians or Chinese etc. in Britain don't behave like this.

It's cultural.

This is one of the feral gangsters who stabbed a fellow young black man to death recently, who worked as a model. They didn't see him as a ROLE model but as someone to take down.



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Old 16-01-2018, 21:31   #635
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Male model kills rival. If David Bowie was still around this could have been sorted out with a walk-off
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Old 16-01-2018, 21:54   #636
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Every single black crime is indicative. Every single white crime is an isolated case.
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Indicative of what?
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Visage is a racist, he thinks black crime is indicative of something.
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He's being sarcastic. But black violence and criminality is the norm, not the exception. Well-behaved blacks are the exception. Many decent black people have pointed this out too, much to the chagrin of their community who hate them for speaking the truth. I've spoken to decent blacks online who've said this.

Whether it's blacks stabbing each other in London, or shooting each other in Chicago, they have a big problem with violence and glorifying it, as well as looking down on their black brothers who work hard and live a blameless life. They don't respect them. They've got it back to front.

Of course there are idiotic whites who glorify crime and violence too, but they are the exception and most of the white community recognise them as the scum they are, and if for example the police shot a white drug dealer, whites won't be out rioting en masse and tearing down their own towns and cities.

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Im paraphrasing your/Enochs position.

A black person commits a crime and its deemed indicative. A white person does and its not.
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