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Old 29-09-2017, 10:40   #671
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No I haven't. Your point being?

I'd like to think I could figure out how to insert shotgun cartridges, point it at a burglar and then pull the trigger if he decided to come at me rather than leaving when I asked him to. And if using cartridges with a short range but wide scatter radius you can hardly miss.
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Old 29-09-2017, 10:46   #672
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All in my opinion, but until you fire a gun yourself you can't quite appreciate just how intimidating and dangerous they are. You talk about this particular shotgun like it's almost a toy, barely able to cause *that* much carnage. I dunno, I think you're understating what it could probably do in something like a cinema or a primary school or something. Guns have a way of still being brutally effective at killing even if you aren't an expert at using them or aren't handling a particular model with better range or reload speed etc. All of that would seem to become quite irrelevant as you fire off a shotgun into a crowd of people.
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Old 29-09-2017, 10:50   #673
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All in my opinion, but until you fire a gun yourself you can't quite appreciate just how intimidating and dangerous they are. You talk about this particular shotgun like it's almost a toy, barely able to cause *that* much carnage. I dunno, I think you're understating what it could probably do in something like a cinema or a primary school or something. Guns have a way of still being brutally effective at killing even if you aren't an expert at using them or aren't handling a particular model with better range or reload speed etc. All of that would seem to become quite irrelevant as you fire off a shotgun into a crowd of people.
No I assume it could kill or take someone's face off at very short range.

Don't assume too much about me, and especially, don't automatically assume I'm 'wrong' about everything I say when I make perfectly reasonable points.

I mean duh, if it isn't capable of doling out serious harm then it isn't much good as a home defence tool is it?
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Old 29-09-2017, 10:54   #674
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Well I said it was just in my opinion, because for me firing off some guns completely reinforced by gun control views. I actually half expected it to soften them, but nah, so I was interested if you'd had the same opportunity.
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Old 29-09-2017, 11:03   #675
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I believe in general gun control but I think it's gone too far in the UK, that's all.
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Old 29-09-2017, 11:29   #676
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you won't really have enough room in a small home to even point a shotgun at someone
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eg has a shotgun firing room in his house IIRC
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Old 29-09-2017, 11:58   #678
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What I would say is that we are 'conditioned' in the UK to baulk at any idea of gun ownership, even a shotgun with low capacity, slow re-loading and with ammo which only stops at short range.

We have somehow been trained to think that not being allowed to effectively defend our homes against intruders who mean us harm, is 'normal' and to allow us an effective means to defend ourselves is 'extreme' or 'dangerous'. I suggest this is nuts.
Why do you think everyone except you is conditioned?

Seems to me to be a tactic to avoid answering points, by suggesting those points aren't the result of reasoned consideration.
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Teacher: OK children, today we're going to learn that two plus two equals four. Yes, Enoch?
Enoch : Actually Miss it equals KILL JEWS. You only think it equals four because of CONDITIONING.
Teacher: Well, thousands of years of mathematics have concluded that 2+2=4.
Enoch : Well you're just a deluded cuck red pill bitch.
Teacher : Awww, bless.
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