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Old 21-06-2016, 11:13   #1021
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Old 21-06-2016, 11:24   #1022
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Gove has encouraged people to vote remain.
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Old 21-06-2016, 12:20   #1023
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Let's make abstract claims and demonise the working classes. The ugliest thing is now becoming the clear contempt the middle-classes have for anyone who doesn't bolster their ego.

How the fuck could anyone make anargument in the middle of all this nasty billious emotional rhetoric?
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Old 21-06-2016, 12:20   #1024
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Old 21-06-2016, 12:33   #1025
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Let's make abstract claims and demonise the working classes. The ugliest thing is now becoming the clear contempt the middle-classes have for anyone who doesn't bolster their ego.

How the fuck could anyone make anargument in the middle of all this nasty billious emotional rhetoric?
They're not abstract claims though, he's making a clear point that we can't wash our hands of it and just say 'he's just mentally ill' - so he is, but that isn't the full story of what has led him to assassinating an MP in the street because of her political views, it ignores what kind of division and hatred is being fed into the minds of people like him, who at some stage, have clearly become radicalised by it all.

How much blame lies with the right-wing press, and organisations that he was evidently a part of, for when someone like him eventually launches an attack?

We ask the same of mosques and hate preachers when it comes to Islamic radicalisation, what role did they play, should they be banned, etc. Are we so naive to think that stuff like this:



isn't a form of radicalisation as well? The Express and others may not directly wish to cause violent incidents, but they are interested in selling hatred and fear because it taps into base emotions and sells, and they're exploiting the uneducated and the fearful, and the mentally vulnerable, shall we say, steadily loosening their screws in order to make money.
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Old 21-06-2016, 12:39   #1026
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The Jew run Daily Express pretends to be anti-EU, and deliberately uses divisive rhetoric in order to scare off 'moderate' anti-EU voters into voting to remain. The best way to con someone is to get people to think you're on their side. Anti-immigration rhetoric is populist and sells papers, but also turns off people like yourself who changed their mind from leave to remain. Win win for them and you play right into their hands.
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Old 21-06-2016, 12:40   #1027
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How much blame lies with the right-wing press, and organisations that he was evidently a part of, for when someone like him eventually launches an attack?
What of a prime minister coaxing people to vote remain by proclaiming WW3 will break out?
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Old 21-06-2016, 12:42   #1028
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The biggest problem is that it seems that your average Guardian reader doesn't understand the implications of someone being 'mentally ill' and doesn't want to wait for the case to be clarified now that they've got the single example they've been hoping for... Trashy right wing papers are responsible but trashy left wing papers that stir hate against the working classes are fine. Sexists in mosques can be labelled 'moderate' and ignored by the left wing press but when one man on medication, who later turned up in court with a straight jacket and seemed unable to take part in proceededings commits a misers, it becomes justification to see every opinion they don't already hold as bogus. Just criticising migrants has brought murder, when refugees abide women in Cologne in an organised way, the problem is that we point it out because that's hatred. Jo Cox was against hatred and we loved her so much while she was alive that we should attach her to every cause now she's dead.
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What of a prime minister coaxing people to vote remain by proclaiming WW3 will break out?
A daft claim, but not sure of the relevance?
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You wouldn't.
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