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Old 22-02-2018, 14:13   #21
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No, it's you that doesn't understand that existence is better than no existence.
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Old 22-02-2018, 14:15   #22
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No, it's you that doesn't understand that existence is better than no existence.
Better from whose perspective, the perspective of the non-existent consciousness that is then forced to exist and live and suffer? LOLOL
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Old 22-02-2018, 14:39   #23
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Yeah but you said any suffering is worse than no suffering through lack of existence, which is very different to a life of suffering. Obviously if something's quality of life is generally rubbish then yes, it's better off dead. But if it's got a perfectly good quality of life most of the time (like its perfectly possible to do for cattle) then what's so abhorrent about that which makes it better off extinct?
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Old 22-02-2018, 14:49   #24
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Old 22-02-2018, 16:02   #25
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Yeah but you said any suffering is worse than no suffering through lack of existence, which is very different to a life of suffering. Obviously if something's quality of life is generally rubbish then yes, it's better off dead. But if it's got a perfectly good quality of life most of the time (like its perfectly possible to do for cattle) then what's so abhorrent about that which makes it better off extinct?
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Scientists estimate that 150-200 species of plant, insect, bird and mammal become extinct every 24 hours.
So what's so special about cows that means they can't become extinct like so many other animals do - other than that people want to milk and eat them?
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Old 22-02-2018, 16:08   #26
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Err good.... point?
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Old 22-02-2018, 21:24   #27
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Yeah but you said any suffering is worse than no suffering through lack of existence, which is very different to a life of suffering. Obviously if something's quality of life is generally rubbish then yes, it's better off dead. But if it's got a perfectly good quality of life most of the time (like its perfectly possible to do for cattle) then what's so abhorrent about that which makes it better off extinct?
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Old 23-02-2018, 11:45   #28
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tbh if they weren't milked they'd just stand in the fields with their udders expanding until eventually they'd just detonate on the fields like landmines going off

its kinder to milk them
If they weren’t milked (or had no calves to feed) they wouldn’t just keep making milk. Like humans don’t continue to make milk for the rest of their lives after stopping breast feeding. There’s a hormone called feedback inhibitor of lactation (FIL) that is made when milk is made and not removed, to tell the process to stop and not make more as it’s not needed.
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Old 23-02-2018, 12:19   #29
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No, they'd obviously explode...
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yeah might have been joking about needing to milk them to stop their udders exploding
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