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Old 18-04-2018, 14:53   #851
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ok allegedly banned, but bear in mind they have done that before with the previous attack, which the OPCW later concluded was a chemical attack and "probably" loyalists to Assad, based on the munitions they recovered, but didn't accuse the regime directly. It's impossible to know for sure, granted.
The OPCW report from 2017 (if that's what you are referring to) said the scope of their report:

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https://www.opcw.org/news/article/op...-4-april-2017/

But yeah I have reasonable faith in the OPCW, they seem independent.

Interesting that their report on Salisbury didn't mention Novichok by name though, which seems odd, they just said "we confirm the findings of the UK"...
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Old 18-04-2018, 15:19   #852
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Because "Novichok" isn't an actual weapon IIRC, it's the collective name for a group of substances. I don't think they have ever released the exact "version" to the public.
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There are apparently 2 versions of the report. The classified one gives the exact chemical formula which exactly matches Novichok.
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Old 18-04-2018, 15:51   #854
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You know how important I consider this report to be. I come in today to find that this is the fruit of your labour. Read the first sentence for RussiaToday.
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There are apparently 2 versions of the report. The classified one gives the exact chemical formula which exactly matches Novichok.
Wiki has the formula lol:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novichok_agent
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All a bit strange anyway, somehow the general public is hoodwinked into believing that chemical weapons are pure evil, and yet when we bomb/kill/mame/orphan countless innocent people with conventional bombs then that's all hunky-dory LOLOL.
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PINK FLOYD KNOW THE SCORE

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All a bit strange anyway, somehow the general public is hoodwinked into believing that chemical weapons are pure evil, and yet when we bomb/kill/mame/orphan countless innocent people with conventional bombs then that's all hunky-dory LOLOL.
Maybe to a certain extent people are more desensitised to the conventional weapons but NBC weapons are in a league of their own when they get going. Little pockets of sarin going off compared to say, a tomahawk missile, is a bit of a false equivalence if the idea is to suggest NBC weapons aren't justifiably more potent or dangerous. It's not a very sophisticated example, and as gruesome as it is to say, it's not a very good use case for that kind of weapon. It's a bit unimaginative to just stick some on the end of a rocket.

To envisage a "proper" scenario of an NBC attack, then imagine a dirty bomb going off in a dense city. It is orders of magnitude worse than a conventional bomb of the same concussive force, for obvious reasons. Imagine a biological weapon in the water supply or in a major food supplier. The list goes on in ways they're unlike conventional weapons in a lot of unsettling ways. That's what the public think about when they see people in the big plastic suits, or people frothing at the mouth.
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https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/0...-to-bomb-them/

A different take.
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