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Old 14-06-2018, 14:28   #3791
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Like any of this shit matters in the end...

Anyone here with kids? They will probably live to see Europe collapse completely up its own arse of its 'growth and diversity'. And / or the next major world war.

All the rest of this is just so much deckchair shuffling on the Titanic.
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Old 14-06-2018, 15:06   #3792
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you said all this back in 2007, said it in 2017, you'll be saying it in 2027
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Old 14-06-2018, 15:07   #3793
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well, you won't be per se, your digital avatar will be saying it, as you'll actually be uploaded into the cloud and your body will just be in some kind of immersion tank with a big coax cable going into the back of your head
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Old 14-06-2018, 15:10   #3794
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Old 14-06-2018, 15:13   #3795
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you said all this back in 2007, said it in 2017, you'll be saying it in 2027
And everything that's happened since has only taken us closer to the inevitable

Unless people think that in a few decades with 10 billion people and no oil or gas left, and 500m non-whites in Europe or whatever, that this is going to end well for anyone.
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Old 14-06-2018, 16:03   #3796
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In he 80s it was all about Japan taking over America, they were the bogeyman. Now it's China.
In the 70s it was all about Indians/Sikhs and Jamaicans overrunning the UK. Now it's all about Muslims and Poles.

We once predicted by 2000 the population would be 8 billion, and in the 50s we even predicted by 2020 we'd have so many people on the planet (10 billion+) we'd not just be living on the moon for pioneering exploration, but as necessity for space. 2 years to go on that prediction, not looking likely.

So when more predictions are wheeled out about what it will be like in 2-3 decades time, you'll forgive me if I take it with a pinch of salt. For one thing most people making these predictions always neglect to mention global fertility has actually fallen off a cliff since the 50s, so as longevity of the boomers tapers off then it's actually indicating that global population is going to correct as well and slow significantly, there's a lead time with these things so we're actually toward the end of the effects of the baby booming generations, subsequent generations are going to dictate more sustainable populations and that's statistical fact unless humans are cloned or delivered from outer-space or the fertility rate suddenly explodes again.
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Old 14-06-2018, 16:09   #3797
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Population in the world is currently (2018) growing at a rate of around 1.09% per year (down from 1.12% in 2017 and 1.14% in 2016). The current average population increase is estimated at 83 million people per year. Annual growth rate reached its peak in the late 1960s, when it was at around 2%.
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Old 14-06-2018, 16:17   #3798
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60s then not 50s, point is the same though, it's getting slower and slower and armies of kids from the boomers are dying off in the next 10-20 years, there's even some demographers who think the sharp increase in medical intervention and sterility of modern life will actually hasten the decrease even more than predicted as we head into the 2020s and 2030s, so the peak population may actually come sooner as we top out at more like 9, 9.5 billion and pull back and stablilise anywhere between 7-9 billion over the next 100 years

the real issue isn't raw numbers, it's how we support it, the way we consume and destroy environments we're ruining things even if you halve our population, plastics, co2 etc all needs sorting out before we worry too much about a few billion here or there
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Old 14-06-2018, 16:22   #3799
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60s then not 50s, point is the same though, it's getting slower and slower and armies of kids from the boomers are dying off in the next 10-20 years, there's even some demographers who think the sharp increase in medical intervention and sterility of modern life will actually hasten the decrease even more than predicted as we head into the 2020s and 2030s, so the peak population may actually come sooner as we top out at more like 9, 9.5 billion and pull back and stablilise anywhere between 7-9 billion over the next 100 years

the real issue isn't raw numbers, it's how we support it, the way we consume and destroy environments we're ruining things even if you halve our population, plastics, co2 etc all needs sorting out before we worry too much about a few billion here or there
There will not be 7-9 billion people in 100 years, I'd be surprised if it's more than say 2.

This large population is only possible due to a glut of cheap oil, that's all. In 100 years, most or all of the oil will be gone and any resources left will be in the control of the last man standing (probably China) for the use of the elite, the military and keeping a semblance of civilisation going.
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