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Old 04-01-2016, 22:46   #21
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it's shocking that the British government would so happily piss our own away.
Only shocking if you thought the British government (of either party) actually gives a shit about us.
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Old 04-01-2016, 22:49   #22
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I believe they did in the 50s but haven't since about the 80s
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Old 04-01-2016, 22:52   #23
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We've debated that before. There are different levels of force, it isn't only physical at the point of a rifle and jackboot. You can be coerced and be made to feel uncomfortable to the point you feel you have no choice but to move on. And then probably get called a 'racist' for doing so, into the bargain. I haven't plucked this notion out of my ass, it's a well known common phenomenon.
The vast majority of people don't feel threatened like that.
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Old 04-01-2016, 22:54   #24
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The vast majority of people don't feel threatened like that.
Well millions of white Brits have moved out of London, Luton, Birmingham, Bradford etc. etc. etc. No foreign army came in and forced them out at the pointy end of a gun, so why did they all leave?

Could it be because people naturally feel more comfortable and 'at home' among people of their own kind?
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The vast majority of people don't feel threatened like that.
You'll have to narrow that down in context. The majority of people don't live in ethnic areas. Are we talking about actual violence vs perceived violence? Are we talking about the general discomfort of people who no longer have a community and whose culture doesn't matter to the people around them?

How would we measure something? By the rate of white flight?
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Is it really so hard to see? Is it so racist to admit?
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Well everyone is assuming it's one thing or another, do some people feel like their street is in the middle of bangladesh so they move? Do others simply move away somewhere nicer when they've earned enough money?

Any sort of surveys of white flighters citing the reasons why they packed up and fucked off?
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Funnily enough, a lot of research has been done by Eric Kaufmann, so... uh... hmmm

Anyway, he thinks "it's a story of success"
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Well millions of white Brits have moved out of London, Luton, Birmingham, Bradford etc. etc. etc. No foreign army came in and forced them out at the pointy end of a gun, so why did they all leave?

Could it be because people naturally feel more comfortable and 'at home' among people of their own kind?
If you look at the 1991, 2001 and 2011 censuses the white british population of the UK was pretty much constant, at around 45 million.

People move, of course they do. But thats not ethnic cleansing. Thats moving house.

And the 'among their own kind' is meaningless - you know very little about those around you. Did you mean 'among their own colour'?
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Again, you're ignoring a wider context and describing a widely reported phenomenon as decontextually as possible to suit you're keep calm and carry on argument

The UN do accept displacement as part of a definition of ethnic cleansing, although given that it has been achieved without central planning in the UK I'm not sure I agree with the use of the term in this situation
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