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Old 24-04-2017, 17:07   #1
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Looks like another Blair clone. Or Obama. Lots of hopey changey bullshit but it will be business as usual. The establishment wins again. Democracy
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Old 24-04-2017, 18:34   #2
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Nexit, Frexit... another "domino about to fall" that actually stays where it is.
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With Macron it seems even more bullshit in your face doublespeak, he's obviously just another neoliberal pro-establishment candidate yet he's painted as an outsider when he was Hollande's advisor.

Whether more nationalistic and protectionist policies will actually improve France is up for debate, maybe France has too much regulation and protection for workers and Macron will make them more competitive? What's interesting is that the actual left in France see this, so Melanchon might even lend his support to Le Pen as she is not a neoliberal.

It could go either way especially if Le Pen rams home the fact Macron is essentially a continuation of Hollande, the least popular president in recent history.
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Hollande says France's unity will be at risk if Le Pen wins

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39695686

Unity? France is united? I suppose if you repeat a lie enough?
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Israel's president is denouncing French far-right presidential candidate Marine Le Pen's recent comments denying France's role in the Holocaust as "uniquely disturbing."

Speaking Monday on Israel's Holocaust memorial day, President Reuven Rivlin said Israel should avoid "unholy alliances" with parties like hers. He called for a "war" against the "dangerous wave of Holocaust denial" in Europe.

Earlier this month Le Pen denied France was responsible for its role in rounding up French Jews for deportation to Nazi death camps.

Rivlin's remarks came a day after Le Pen advanced to a May 7 runoff in the French presidential election.

He said Israel should "resist unholy alliances with extreme right-wing elements" in Europe because "there was and will be nothing in common with anti-Semites in any shape or form."
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Say anything the Jews don't like and you're an anti-Semite - as Ken Livingstone found out.
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btw, for all the hype about Marine Le Pen, she has only done slightly better than her father did in the 2002 presidential election when he came a close 2nd to Jacques Chirac.

In the 2nd round, Chirac got almost all the other votes to win 83% to 17%. Le Pen went up by less than 1% over round one.
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Her comments were a bit weird though, so seemed to try and absolve French police collaborating with the Nazis as something that didn't happen. Then appeared to backtrack and say 'well they aren't France' - as in they don't represent France so don't associate them with France today. That goes without saying as everybody in France and Germany have moved on, it was in the past. Nobody blames the current generations in France and Germany for the behaviour and political choices made by people who are now dead.

Why some politicians seem compelled to keep bringing up nazi stuff though is beyond me.
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Well she's quit as leader of the national front, so clearly trying to ditch their associations - Probably a bit late in the day though.
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Her comments were a bit weird though, so seemed to try and absolve French police collaborating with the Nazis as something that didn't happen. Then appeared to backtrack and say 'well they aren't France' - as in they don't represent France so don't associate them with France today. That goes without saying as everybody in France and Germany have moved on, it was in the past. Nobody blames the current generations in France and Germany for the behaviour and political choices made by people who are now dead.

Why some politicians seem compelled to keep bringing up nazi stuff though is beyond me.
Indeed, bringing it up was bizarre unless she is deliberately trying to sabotage her chances. Why would you hand your opponents a gift like that?
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