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Old 26-09-2018, 13:31   #71
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Thousands of years, in the scale of the planet's life is a rounding error. Just because we've always done something, doesn't mean it will, or can, continue to work forever.

In a few centuries, or less, the global population will likely be under a billion.
I thought it would be obvious that a discussion of economics would necessarily only include the period since civilisation started.

But if you want to consider the evolution of the economy when T Rex was roaming the earth then be my guest.
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Old 26-09-2018, 14:01   #72
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You think our modern system has direct correlations to the ancient past? Well okay, how about the Bronze Age collapse where the 'entire world' that was built on a system of interconnected trade fragmented and near enough every city that relied on the palace economies disintegrated?

Economies are resilient, but if the fundamentals they're based upon become unreliable then it doesn't matter about some historical record of growth, reality bites.
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Old 26-09-2018, 14:18   #73
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Growth in recent decades has been fuelled by oil. Yes you can speculate that nuclear will take over when oil runs out, but then uranium is finite too. Then what...
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Old 26-09-2018, 14:27   #74
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Renewable energy. But what about when the solar system runs out... Then what...
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Renewable energy. But what about when the solar system runs out... Then what...
Lol, but nowhere near enough, and production of all things required for renewable needs oil.
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The sun has nowhere near enough energy.

And yes, but even if we do use fossil fuel derived energy to put it in place and transition to it, who cares, it's a means to an end.
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Even if we had free infinite energy, it doesn't solve all the other problems of overpopulation. Growth will have to end.
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Old 26-09-2018, 18:27   #78
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Global population is likely to taper off by the middle of the century and be in decline by the end.
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If it does, it will be because of hard resource limits, which is the point of what some of us are talking about.
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