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Old 28-04-2016, 10:33   #1
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Naz Shah row: peers accuse Labour of failing to root out antisemitism

Lord Levy and Lady Neuberger say Bradford West MP’s case highlights wider issue of antisemitism in parts of the left


Labour has been accused by two Jewish peers of failing to get to grips with antisemitism within the party after the suspension of Bradford MP Naz Shah for offensive remarks on Facebook.

Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour leader, caved to pressure and took action against Shah on Wednesday over a series of posts from 2014 in which she appeared to endorse a suggestion that Israelis be deported to the US. Shah has apologised several times.

But Michael Levy, the former fundraiser for Tony Blair, and Julia Neuberger, a cross-bench rabbi, said the comments highlighted a wider problem with antisemitism within some elements of the left.

Lord Levy said antisemitism was an issue across political divides but appeared more prominent in his own party.

He told BBC Newsnight that the case of Shah left him “scratching his head with despair as to how people like this can enter our parliament with such a lack of knowledge, discretion and sensitivity”.

Lady Neuberger claimed the issue in Labour was “attached to Jeremy Corbyn becoming leader”, and “an issue within the hard left”.

John Woodcock, MP and former chair of the Labour Friends of Israel, said: “The handling of this has been a mess. But the most important thing is that the Labour leadership properly acknowledges now the scale of the antisemitism problem that is growing in the party.

“This is abhorrent to our values as a party. It ought to transcend views on the leadership and wider party direction, but unless and until it is gripped by everyone from Jeremy downwards it is going to fester and undermine everything we do.”

David Baddiel, a Jewish comedian and author, made similar accusations on the Today programme, saying there was a particular problem with antisemitism on the left.

He said: “The left portrays itself as a champion of the oppressed. But there is such a big hangover from them that the Jews are not that, that they are rich and powerful and controlling and therefore that they do not fit into the category of the oppressed, particularly in their version of Israel, which is the oppressor. And therefore, the left does not extend to Jews the same protections as to other minorities.”
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...t-antisemitism

Is this true? Or are they conflating criticism of Israel with racism against Jews?

I think that the 'anti-semitism' allegation is thrown around too readily, to shut down criticism of Jews or Israel.

What this woman said might offend some. But there is no reason to consider it racist against Jews is there? She said something which is pretty hard to argue against, which is that if the Jewish state was in north America instead of in the middle east surrounded by people who hate them, then it would be conducive to peace in the region etc. But even if her idea is retarded, she ought to have the right to SAY it. It's out of the box thinking. Thinking that way has got us many advances in man's history. Israel is an artificially created state after all, so the idea it couldn't be anywhere else is false.
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Old 28-04-2016, 10:43   #2
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Labour has repeatedly stressed it is dealing with any incidents of antisemitism that are reported, and there have been a string of suspensions of activists and councillors in recent months.

Before Shah was suspended on Wednesday, David Cameron used prime minister’s questions to say it was extraordinary that she continued to hold the Labour whip and accused Corbyn of failing to get to grips with antisemitism in his party.

Corbyn’s aides defended Shah, initially saying the comments were antisemitic but the MP had “shocked herself” and did not mean what she said.

But later in the day, Labour announced that the Bradford West MP had been suspended while claims against her were investigated by the compliance committee of Labour’s national executive committee.
Is this not sounding like a witch hunt?

It is bound to make people more fearful of voicing criticism of Israel etc. if this is what they face.
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Old 28-04-2016, 14:52   #3
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Srs bsns indeed... now Labour have just suspended Ken Livingstone for supporting Shah.
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Old 28-04-2016, 14:56   #4
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Livingstone says criticising Israel not the same as antisemitism

John Mann calls Livingstone ‘disgusting Nazi apologist’

Key Corbyn ally says Livingstone should quit politics

Labour suspends Livingstone
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It is clearly bollocks, another stick to beat Corbyn with
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Old 28-04-2016, 16:50   #7
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John Mann chairs the All-Party Parliamentary Group against Antisemitism.[10] The Group commissioned the All-Party Parliamentary Inquiry into Antisemitism in 2005. The inquiry panel, chaired by former Europe Minister Denis MacShane, gathered written and oral evidence on antisemitism in Britain and published a report of their findings on 7 September 2006. The panel's recommendations included improved reporting and recording of antisemitic attacks; a crackdown on anti-Jewish activity on university campuses; and improved international co-operation to prevent the spread of racist material online. In May 2009 John Mann received the American Jewish Committee's Jan Karski Award in recognition of his commitment to fighting antisemitism in all of its forms.
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On 28 April 2016, Mann confronted Ken Livingstone over comments in which Livingstone had claimed Hitler "was supporting Zionism before he went mad and ended up killing six million Jews". In a chance confrontation at BBC studios, Mann described Livingstone as a "Nazi apologist" and a " fucking disgrace".[12] Following this incident, Mann has been called in by Labour's Chief Whip to discuss his behaviour.[13]
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Old 28-04-2016, 17:19   #8
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lol at the labour party being run by muslims
and noone saw it coming
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John Mann seems mad

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Labour MPs have reacted with fury after John Mann was summoned by the leadership to be told he had made a 'serious' mistake by confronting Ken Livingstone.

The Bassetlaw MP accosted the former London Mayor outside TV studios in Westminster, accusing him of being a 'Nazi apologist' for citing Hitler in defence of Labour MP Naz Shah.
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