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Old 23-03-2018, 15:17   #21
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Because the holocaust and climate change ARE true, and it's denial if you oppose something that has overwhelming evidence.

Apparently the UK has evidence it was Russia, and have made the accusation to them, Russia is denying it. It will all come out in the end anyway.
Yes, like the government had evidence of Saddam's WMDs... No I'm not saying that because they lied that time, they lie every time... but it just proves that it means nothing that the government say something... it should carry no weight.
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Old 23-03-2018, 15:17   #22
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I think you get what I'm driving at, the usage of a word, especially on a mainstream news site doesn't live and die with a strict textbook definition because the use and interpretation of them evolves. If a headline said 'Friends claim Ant McPartlin was gay before he got divorced' - it'd be taken as he's homosexual. Not happy. The author wouldn't be let off the hook by going 'ah but, if you remember the ori...' - they'd just be told to edit it and stop being a smart arse. There's a responsibility in journalism to match the headline and content with the modern day context, public perception, colloquialisms and so on.
The state of his wife would turn anyone gay.

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Old 23-03-2018, 15:22   #23
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Multi-millionaire and he marries a troglodyte ffs

HE'S DOING IT WRONG

I mean marriage is retarded, but marrying a troglodyte is doubly so
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Old 23-03-2018, 15:23   #24
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And LOL at the BBC's choice of linked articles... "you might also like 'People who think the government control the weather'"... i.e. anybody who doubts the government line about Russia must be a nutter.
Your suggestion that the BBC is not entirely unbiased is a conspiracy theory I bet you believe the earth is flat too
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Old 23-03-2018, 15:32   #25
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Your suggestion that the BBC is not entirely unbiased is a conspiracy theory I bet you believe the earth is flat too
YES. OBVIOUSLY.
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On a slightly related note... when the MI6 plotted to assassinate Gaddafi in the 90s (this is now proven by the way), this was widely regarded as a crazy conspiracy theory, and strenuously denied by our government. The attack failed (obviously), but the car bomb killed innocent people. No charges were brought of course, despite that basically being effectively a terrorist attack.

Anyway, MI6 also leaked a forged memo at the time about the assassination plot, containing subtle mistakes, in the hope that it would be picked up by the media, discredited as a forgery, and thereby casting doubt on any real evidence that was submitted.

Just in case anybody is an any doubts about whether we can believe anything our government (or secret services) say.
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Old 23-03-2018, 15:50   #27
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Yes, like the government had evidence of Saddam's WMDs... No I'm not saying that because they lied that time, they lie every time... but it just proves that it means nothing that the government say something... it should carry no weight.
The holocaust and climate change aren't believed to be true simply because government says so.
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Old 23-03-2018, 16:33   #28
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The holocaust and climate change aren't believed to be true simply because government says so.
I agree.
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Old 23-03-2018, 16:39   #29
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I know. But there are plenty that can't distinguish, or don't want to.
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