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Old 18-10-2017, 10:46   #1
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Obviously if you're pro-EU or an apologist for Islam you won't be interested in their ideas but I can see them becoming popular, how far they can go only time will tell.

The irony of this new wave of British Nationalism being led by an Irish woman is certainly amusing.
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Old 18-10-2017, 10:49   #2
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given up with ukip has she?
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Old 18-10-2017, 10:53   #3
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given up with ukip has she?

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She thinks they've capitulated against Islam.
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Old 18-10-2017, 10:50   #4
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Well she was dismissed by Farage as too extreme, and he's the last person I'd describe as pro-EU and an Islam apologist.
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Well she was dismissed by Farage as too extreme, and he's the last person I'd describe as pro-EU and an Islam apologist.
And how much about Farage's views on Islam do you really know?

Farage is like a 90% strength version of the Tories, nothing more.
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Oh right. So it's basically just another BNP then, led by paranoia.
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Oh right. So it's basically just another BNP then, led by paranoia.
I don't think it's just another BNP, I've not seen anything racist in their ideas.

With regard to paranoia though it is certainly tapping into concern over the EU, Islam and Common Purpose.
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I don't think it's just another BNP, I've not seen anything racist in their ideas.

With regard to paranoia though it is certainly tapping into concern over the EU, Islam and Common Purpose.
To Chuckles, being concerned that anything is wrong with anything is paranoia.

(Unless it's the things the system has told him to be paranoid about, like Brexit.)
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I don't think it's just another BNP, I've not seen anything racist in their ideas.
But the BNP didn't have anything 'racist' in their ideas either by the strictest of definitions. They never said stuff like 'We'd deport all niggers ' - but they'd phrase the thin end of their wedge in a more palatable way, similar language is rife in this manifesto she's written as well. Deportation of people found guilty of engaging in Islam criminal acts.

Well, bearing her view on Islam, I think the critical question there is what this party would define as a 'Islam criminal act' - this could almost mean anything they want it to mean, which is probably the whole idea.

I mean, we've gone down this road so many times haven't we? How insidious views can wear a more reasonable guise in official documents, but you've not lost your ability to see subtext have you? Reading between the lines? Dog whistle politics? They're never going to be overtly racist in manifestos, but they won't need to be if people like you read it and go 'Well, I see nothing written down here about gassing jews and hanging wogs from trees so how can they be fascists?'
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