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Old 06-12-2017, 16:17   #3331
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This is just a total fuck up.

I didn't vote for this shambles....
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Old 06-12-2017, 16:24   #3332
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This is just a total fuck up.

I didn't vote for this shambles....


this is the crux of all the problems, look at this for a cop out

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Q: Has the cabinet discussed the end state, where the UK wants to get to after Brexit?

Hammond says there have been discussions about Brexit, but not a specific one about the end state.

That can only happen when they know talks will move to phase two. Any discussion before then would be premature, he claims.
That's all they keep doing, shifting it onto the EU as if they're responsible for everything with this. We're leaving, it's up to us to decide on the final Brexit vision and then try our best to to achieve it. All they're doing is being as slippery as possible so if and when people scrutinise it they can just deploy a load of weasel words and ask where did they ever specifically say they would or wouldn't do X, Y and Z?
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Old 06-12-2017, 16:30   #3333
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Both sides are as bad as each other, but May just needs to leave and let somone more robust to take over negotiations.

This is just embarrassing.
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Old 06-12-2017, 16:41   #3334
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Nobody wants the job though, they'd get more volunteers asking who wants to put cream on Boris' piles.

Tories are cut-throat with their leadership, at any other time May would have been out taken outside and summarily executed the day after the election. The fact she's fucked up even MORE since then and is still there tells you all you need to know.

Another leader swapping with her wouldn't do much other than just delay stuff and cause more political uncertainty around everything. Once the dust has settled Brussels would remind us the issues are all still there and the clock is ticking.
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Old 06-12-2017, 16:43   #3335
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Regardless of the actual intrinsic value of impact assessments, I do think they should have been carried out, even if for no other reason than to avoid this humiliation. If something is expected of you and to fail to do it leaves you looking incompetent or negligent, then you must do it. The government hasn't done it.

I think virtually everyone regardless of remain / leave, wants these jokers out of government ASAP.
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Yeah, even if we agree to disagree on the assessments being made available to MPs and businesses or not, just the fact they said they had done them and the PM said she'd fucking read some of them, for them to turn out to be fictional is laughable. It's gonna unite leavers and remainers in their common hatred of them though, just in time for christmas.
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^

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/...t-brexit-name/

I don't think anyone can really argue with the premise of that tbh, hyperbole aside
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This is just a total fuck up.

I didn't vote for this shambles....
Yes you did. Half of us on here told you that this kind of monkey clusterfuck would happen, and you voted for it.

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Old 06-12-2017, 21:24   #3340
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This is just a total fuck up.

I didn't vote for this shambles....
yes you did, you voted for this cluster fuck when you listened to idiots like Gove saying we don't need epxerts and Johnson wittering on like some insande crack addict. This is exactly what you voted for. The so called experts that were cast aside said this shit was going to unfold but all the unicorn cock munchers said it was project fear.

I laugh at the folly of the situation and hope that it will lead to more people dying of exposure and hunger in the streets while their childrens cold corpses are used as combustible material to keep our power stations fired up so we can drink our champagne with the lights on................
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