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Old 25-07-2017, 10:58   #2501
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Old 26-07-2017, 13:52   #2502
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Environment Secretary Michael Gove has said the UK should say "no" to chlorine washed chicken from the United States, in direct contradiction with International Trade Secretary Dr Liam Fox. Asked by the BBC's Nick Robinson whether the UK should allow the import of chorine washed chicken, "yes or no", The Environment Secretary gave a straightforward answer:

“No. I made it perfectly clear, and this is something on which all members of the government are agreed. We are not going to dilute our high food safety standards or our high environmental standards in pursuit of any trade deal.
I agree with him, if he means what he says, but where does that leave us? The US will have to increase its standards to meet ours if it wants food and agriculture to be in the deal? There's other sectors as well with similar gaps in standards. Will Trump still see it as a 'win' for America to compromise on anything?

This is precisely the detail we were warned could take years, if ever, to hammer out when it comes to just striking up free trade deals left right and centre post-Brexit. Either we compromise on our high standards, or we have to persuade others to adopt ours. The US seems like it will be tricky and we've barely begun, imagine China/India/Australia ffs. Apparently Australia are proper strict with dairy coming into the country, as well as loads of other food and shit that can impact their eco-system in the slightest way. Why would they suddenly chuck all that in the bin?
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Old 26-07-2017, 14:06   #2503
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Apparently poultry accounts for 0.2% of the trade and there's already a shitstorm.

It's like you say - The problem isn't really about free trade - Both sides can agree to that quickly. It's the amount of standards and regulations about every product or service which is being traded.
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Old 26-07-2017, 14:23   #2504
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The EU have also pointed out that Fox doesn't seem to understand the wider implications of agreeing to stuff like that, chlorine washed chickens, hormone beef, whatever the issue of the day is. If we want a free trade deal, or really close to it, with the EU at the same time of all this, our export standards will still have to match up with theirs, assuming we still want to export food to our biggest trading partner.

They're not going to allow chlorinated chicken to enter the EU, unless Britain makes it illegal to wash poultry in it for European distribution, which means setting up two types of production, one for British consumers and one for European ones. An arrangement more cumbersome then the original situation and one that literally benefits ourselves the least. They're probably not lying when they say they're genuinely dumbstruck at our Brexit team seemingly having no clue to what they're signing the country up to.
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Old 26-07-2017, 14:38   #2505
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It's almost as it having 1 set of rules is actually more efficient than having 28 sets of rules.....
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Old 26-07-2017, 15:39   #2506
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Old 26-07-2017, 16:04   #2507
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Even if we have a deal with the US to sell their shit chicken here, that doesn't mean it enters the EU, WTF are you on about
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- UK allows chlorinated chicken to be sold to its consumers
- Suppliers import US chicken into our market
- US chicken competes with British chicken
- Now made legal, some British suppliers might (read: will) adopt US method for myriad of reasons (cheaper, easier etc)
- EU retains ban on chlorinated chicken during all of this and demands our exports meet EU standards
- Results in the emergence of different food standards dependant on end-consumer
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BTW there's no reason to believe the US would allow their chicken to be subject to any tariffs etc to make it the same price as the equivalent UK chicken, the whole point of free trade is a removal of the barriers so we can sell each other more chicken.
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Old 26-07-2017, 17:00   #2510
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Even if we have a deal with the US to sell their shit chicken here, that doesn't mean it enters the EU, WTF are you on about
Because all of a sudden the EU is going to have to impose far more stringent checks on any food that contains chicken and is exported from the UK. UK firms are going to end up subject to far more regulation and form filling to export to the EU than they currently are.

What about in Ireland? We are trying to avoid a border between Eire and NI, but all of a sudden there are goods that aren't allowed to cross that border, so how's that going to work?
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