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Old 18-06-2018, 13:02   #1
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Why are so many people like children? He said he supports the bill, just that it should be debated first to make sure it is workable etc.

He's then portrayed as some sort of sexist monster by all the morons who inhabit this country.

THE SAME SORT OF PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT TOMMY ROBINSON
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Old 18-06-2018, 13:25   #2
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Because like with so many stories, the actual truth is often too long to fit into a tabloid headline that stupid people can understand.
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Old 18-06-2018, 14:02   #3
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He says he supports the bill because he got a bollocking after blocking the first one. At the time he blocked it, an alternative didn't even exist. They had to rush it into other legislation to avoid the backlash.
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He blocks bills on Fridays all the time, for good reason. He blocks bills he agrees with. It's a more nuanced stance than the simplistic tabloid characterisation.

Rushed law is often bad law.
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Sir Christopher has been criticised in the past for effectively stopping private member's bills that would have posthumously pardoned World War Two code-breaker Alan Turing for his 1952 conviction for homosexual activity and scrapped hospital parking charges for carers.
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What if the parking law was drafted badly and had the unintended consequence of letting everyone park there for free, thus in practice denying spaces to staff, patients and carers.
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Old 18-06-2018, 14:20   #7
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He blocks bills on Fridays all the time, for good reason. He blocks bills he agrees with. It's a more nuanced stance than the simplistic tabloid characterisation.

Rushed law is often bad law.
It's not good reason though. I know he blocks all the ones he can but that's not a justification as a reason to do it against bills with the support of the whole house. He has admitted that when he did this, he didn't even know what it was about, or even what upskirting meant. That amounts to an abuse if power and a delay in introducing legislation which will only go on to be passed in a virtually unchanged form.
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What if the parking law was drafted badly and had the unintended consequence of letting everyone park there for free, thus in practice denying spaces to staff, patients and carers.
Your argument assumes that literally no other MPs read or scrutinise these bills in advance, which isn't the case. The fact there is no division is down to the fact the bills have been read and have cross party support.
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What if the parking law was drafted badly and had the unintended consequence of letting everyone park there for free, thus in practice denying spaces to staff, patients and carers.
is that it though or are you guessing?

sounds to me the more likely explanation is ideological 'instinct' rather than some kind of insightful view into the bills that no other MP managed to spot, like chuckles said he blocked the up-skirting bill and then later admitted he didn't know what it is, that to me suggests he probably assumed it was something else or instinctively dislikes any bill that has big female support or something.
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No I just used that as an example of the sort of thing.

Say you are behind a woman on some stairs, or an escalator or whatever it may be, using your phone to write a text or whatever. Suddenly someone goes, oi, stop photographing up that woman's skirt. Woman turns round, demands to know what you're doing. Then some fists come in and you end up getting arrested. Witnesses all 'saw' you photographing up her skirt.

The jury thinks you're lying because of all the witnesses.

You go to jail, for using your phone to write a text message.
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