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Old 26-02-2018, 21:18   #3581
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If we couldn't buy super cheap produce from countries that pay slave wages; I wonder if/when the value of domestic produce increases that farmers will be forced to offer wages attractive to domestic workers. That assuming that farmers aren't already in a position to offer higher wages but I suspect they're not.
And the consumer just accepts the higher price?
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Old 26-02-2018, 21:27   #3582
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And the consumer just accepts the higher price?
This is why I say the whole system is fucked. Your average person in this country can't afford to buy the produce at the price that it costs to grow/make/produce in this country because of the high wage costs in this country. So we end up with unemployment and high benefits here, and (effectively) employ cheap labour in other countries to produce the shit we consume instead. LOLJEWS.
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Old 26-02-2018, 23:57   #3583
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If we couldn't buy super cheap produce from countries that pay slave wages; I wonder if/when the value of domestic produce increases that farmers will be forced to offer wages attractive to domestic workers. That assuming that farmers aren't already in a position to offer higher wages but I suspect they're not.
Cyclical process; the cost of living increase to reflect the increase in production costs would basically bring us all back where we started wrt the cost of X produce being Y percent of income.

Agri and processing wages can be good. The veg factory I worked at had people making 100+ a day because they worked fast and efficiently.

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Old 28-02-2018, 16:12   #3584
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MPs should be given a free vote on whether to accept or reject the final Brexit deal, Sir John Major has said.

The ex-prime minister argues that MPs must vote with their "own conscience" on whether the deal on offer will leave the UK better or worse off.

Jacob Rees-Mogg suggested the former PM was talking "complete humbug" over the issue as rather than permitting free votes during the Maastricht battles of the early 1990s, Eurosceptic rebels were subject to the "most aggressive" whipping.

"You would expect John Major, a former prime minister, to make a statesmanlike speech, free of propaganda and cheap comments, when in fact, it's all cheap comments and propaganda," he said.

"This isn't a statesmanlike speech, this is one of somebody grubbing around in the weeds for weak arguments and it's a very poor speech in that regard."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43229964

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Old 28-02-2018, 16:26   #3585
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Yeah he really should have seen it would be thrown back in that way. He'd have been better argument for a referendum on the deal. MP's can vote on type of Brexit we get, but realistically only another vote of public can overturn the last one.
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Old 28-02-2018, 16:29   #3586
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Three way question. Remain, take the deal on offer, or leave without a deal.

Then rely on a split vote between the leave options to stay in the EU.

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Old 28-02-2018, 17:12   #3587
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The EU's draft legal agreement proposes a "common regulatory area" after Brexit on the island of Ireland - in effect keeping Northern Ireland in a customs union - if no other solution is found.

Mrs May said "no UK prime minister could ever agree" to this.
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The joint EU-UK document says any future deal must protect "North-South co-operation" and hold to the UK's "guarantee of avoiding a hard border".

The agreement also says "no new regulatory barriers" will be allowed between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK, and that Northern Ireland's businesses will continue to have "unfettered access" to the UK internal market - a passage thought to have been added to meet DUP concerns.

But it also sets out a fallback position if the UK fails to agree a trade deal. This could prove controversial because it says there will continue to be "full alignment" between the EU and Northern Ireland on some elements of cross-border trade, as set out in the Good Friday Agreement.
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Old 28-02-2018, 18:26   #3588
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The problem is, they are morons.

They had to get a draft agreement through before Xmas so they just kicked the can down the road with that, knowing it would be a huge issue with her backbenchers.
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Old 28-02-2018, 21:29   #3589
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fuck sakes can that piss drenched whore May just hurry up and leave with no deal so i can crack out my Champagne and drink over the rancid rotting corspes of the peasants and their cunt children that are laying the streets.
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