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Old 13-11-2018, 17:16   #31
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Do you think I don't know that, you retarded autist.

I give up... I think I'm the only sane person in this thread who can think, read and comprehend.
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Old 13-11-2018, 17:23   #32
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FWIW I agree with you in this thread, it's just an example of some capitalist thinking he can buy a cash cow and milk it whilst changing the business model in the hope of making it more profitable but will quite possibly dry up its udders.
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Old 13-11-2018, 17:27   #33
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FLICKR IS HURTING THEMSELVES, do you need someone to draw you a picture to explain it?

They will save pennies on storage and destroy the value of the site - THE PICTURES! The pictures are what gives Flickr value, not the storage space.
They don't give a fucking SHIT, evidently. You're the one being an autist if you think they don't know this will piss people off and reduce users in the short term. Have you actually fucking considered they KNOW this and are doing it anyway for reasons you're not privy to? Maybe they just want the infrastructure or their own SmugCock customer base and they don't give a flying fuck if Flickr spackers stomp off and leave a little jpeg in their wake.
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Old 13-11-2018, 17:37   #34
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Old 13-11-2018, 18:25   #35
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They don't give a fucking SHIT, evidently. You're the one being an autist if you think they don't know this will piss people off and reduce users in the short term. Have you actually fucking considered they KNOW this and are doing it anyway for reasons you're not privy to? Maybe they just want the infrastructure or their own SmugCock customer base and they don't give a flying fuck if Flickr spackers stomp off and leave a little jpeg in their wake.
You fucking autist. Its OBVIOUS that pro bedroom dweller ENOCH POWELL knows more about running a photo sharing website than the guys who run Flickr.

Maybe, Enoch, you could solve your employment issues in one go by just setting up a rival that will replace them, using your evidently superior knowledge of how things should be?
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Maybe, Enoch, you could solve your employment issues in one go by just setting up a rival that will replace them, using your evidently superior knowledge of how things should be?
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Old 13-11-2018, 19:10   #37
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Lots of comments like this... a reminder not everyone has autism

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First lets get this out of the way - The 1000 photo limit has nothing to do with storage costs, that's nonsense. Storage is already ridiculously cheap and will only get cheaper going forward. If storage costs were a concern, the limit would be gigabytes used, not 1000 photos (small) OR videos (much larger.) Bandwidth and infrastructure, staffing and maintenance are all costs, storage is a small slice of that pie.

My concern is that a company supposedly dedicated to sharing photographs is planning to deliberately destroy millions of photos, wiping them from existence forever. Once you've done that there's no undoing it.

Businesses have to make money, I understand that. But when you set your business up as a curator of public art, you also have a moral obligation to protect the interests of both those who entrust their art to your system, and those who rely on your business to serve as a curator for that art.

Note I said MORAL obligation, not legal. Of course legally Flickr can do whatever they want legally. Businesses are non-sentient abstract entities incapable of morality, ethics, or sound judgement. Only human beings are able to provide that. Only when a company is led by a charismatic and effective human leader can a company be said to have morality. Some businesses are helmed by CEOs who are effectively sociopaths, with no concern for the human cost of their actions, motivated solely by profit and power.

I sincerely hope Flickr is not in this situation, and that their CEO is capable of actually understanding how morally bankrupt it would be to wipe out years of accumulated artwork which has been shared throughout the world, destroying the links, the history, the stories, and the legacies of people who are no longer able to manage their accounts.

There ARE options which are morally responsible without being too costly.

* Rather than DESTROY the existing photos, just prevent new ones from being added until the user has culled their own list down to under 1000.

* Limit functionality for free accounts which are over that limit so that those who plan to continue using Flickr can be motivated to upgrade or to downsize their collections themselves.

* Continue hosting photos in free accounts which are over the limit, but throttle bandwidth so they're slower to load. That reduces the real cost of hosting and limits monetization by outside parties without DESTROYING the content.

* Create a way for the community to subsidize publicly shared content where the owner is unavailable, or to serve as curators or patrons for such content.

* Before removing content from accounts, archive it to a low-cost low-availability storage platform, similar to Amazon Glacier, with a path to restoration.

The arbitrary destruction of publicly available art is a heinous offense against the community who rely on it, and if Flickr does go ahead with this part of the plan, it will be a base betrayal, making it impossible to ever trust them again.
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Old 13-11-2018, 19:40   #38
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They're not deleting them until January though, right?

So anyone with content that they don't want to lose has plenty of time to find another provider and transfer their content.
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Are you actually this dumb or is it a contrived act?
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A formerly free service is now going to start charging, and is giving all users two months to come up with alternative arrangements, or pay a small annual fee.

What part am I not understanding?
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