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Old 14-11-2018, 21:25   #2461
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Well they're only partially fucking people over.
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Old 14-11-2018, 21:30   #2462
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The point is the structure that is laid out in its legislation, it may never have happened but am I not allowed to question it? I'm not talking about an example, I've given you a detailed reason how it isn't democratic but think what you like.
But you didn't seem to appreciate that the commission agree with parliament the agenda which is to be implemented in a year. It doesn't contrast that drastically from the UK. A government minister may propose a bill, but that really just means it has their name to it. The creation is done by civil servants.

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Do you honestly not see any issue with having an unelected body at the centre? Maybe whilst the EU still has mostly decent people in it its fine, but what happens when that is no longer the case?
It depends on what their function is. If they were overriding the wishes of elected politicians then I think it would be a problem. But like I said, I don't think think the EU parliamentary institutions are perfect and there are better examples of democracy. But I disagree with simplistic labelling that the EU is anti-democratic and the UK is much better because reality is that they have different systems but are not miles apart in terms of outcomes as you suggest.
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Old 14-11-2018, 21:37   #2463
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I guess we'll see what happens in the future when German banking interests come further into precedence.
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Old 14-11-2018, 21:58   #2464
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I guess we'll see what happens in the future when German banking interests come further into precedence.
There's no such thing as German banking interests. They're all multinational now.
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Old 14-11-2018, 22:32   #2465
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Just because they all have fingers in different pies doesn't make them any less corporations tied to specific states. Is Deutsche Bank not German?
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Old 15-11-2018, 02:00   #2466
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Old 15-11-2018, 10:20   #2467
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Old 15-11-2018, 10:27   #2468
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Im sure the GOP will ride to his defence, just like they did with Kavanaugh.
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Old 20-11-2018, 00:49   #2469
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Awkward.

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Old 21-11-2018, 00:13   #2470
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LOL. Money always wins...

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