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Old 22-07-2018, 12:00   #11
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Leaving without a deal is what will happen automatically though.

So if we carry on fucking around, it happens.
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Old 22-07-2018, 18:56   #12
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I meant we’d hold this ‘peoples vote’ thing prior to March 29th and we rescind A50
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Old 22-07-2018, 19:09   #13
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We can't rescind A50 without the permission of the other EU members now.
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Old 22-07-2018, 19:12   #14
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Yeah but they will, and I know everyone thinks they’ll be mean and make us leave now anyway but I highly doubt it.
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Old 22-07-2018, 19:16   #15
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Tusk has already said we can cancel or extend A50. No EU nation is going to veto.
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Old 22-07-2018, 19:20   #16
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Actually just checked and that’s wrong, it’s extending article 50 timetable that needs members to vote on and pass, withdrawing the entire thing has no legal stance and Tusk has said we could cancel if we wanted.

The proof would be in the pudding obviously but I think we’d suffer embrassment and a lot of political capital would be lost with other EU nations but that’s probably it, IMO.
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Oh yeah sorry I was confusing withdrawal with extension.
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One of Britain's biggest energy firms has admitted for the first time that smart meters will allow suppliers to introduce 'surge pricing'.

Scottish Power said new tariffs which lead to price shifts every half an hour will be put in place as soon as the energy regulator gives them the go ahead.

The controversial scheme – which relies heavily on smart meters - could significantly change the way households consume energy.

Energy prices on the new tariffs will peak on special occasions such as Christmas Day and Easter when millions of households are using electricity or gas at the same time, The Telegraph reported.

Keith Anderson, chief executive of Scottish Power, defended the tariffs saying they will 'benefit customers by delivering a smarter grid' and could offer 'significant benefits'.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ish-Power.html

I read elsewhere they will be able to change you from credit billing to prepayment without needing to change the meter or visit your premises. Currently they need to physically fit a different meter when they do that. More evidence these devices are for their benefit, not ours.
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Old 31-08-2018, 15:00   #19
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Just had a call from my energy company where he started his call telling me he was ringing to arrange the best day to come and fit my new smart meter.

Scummy sales tactic of phrasing the question as if it's a done deal that you're going to 'buy' the shite they're selling, and it's just a case of finalising the details

Of course he wouldn't take no for an answer either, 'how much do you know about them?' and 'why don't you like them'

Just had to say I don't like them, I don't want them a few times, then he fucked off.

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Not had any issue with ours, gives a good insight into usage and was free.
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