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Forum: Serious Business Today, 11:59
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Posted By Malcolm Tucker
https://twitter.com/grantshapps/status/10637133135...

https://twitter.com/grantshapps/status/1063713313505374208

:ffspant:
Forum: Serious Business 16-11-2018, 17:59
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Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
I'm under no collision and perfect solution...

I'm under no collision and perfect solution doesn't exist, but you were the one making out it's easy to come up with something better than May because she was wilfully being traitorous and better...
Forum: Serious Business 16-11-2018, 17:45
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Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
A person they eventually found who was willing to...

A person they eventually found who was willing to do it. I wonder what number on the list he was. :hehe:
Forum: Serious Business 16-11-2018, 17:40
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Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
Right, ok then yeah we'll have a harder border...

Right, ok then yeah we'll have a harder border between the two Irelands. That creates problems all in itself though, and let's not pretend it wouldn't. This is presumably why you originally said the...
Forum: Serious Business 16-11-2018, 17:02
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Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
Ignore the EU in that scenario, let's say they...

Ignore the EU in that scenario, let's say they just meekly roll over to PM Enoch.

If you trade under WTO rules but have an open border between UK/EU it's a actually a violation under WTO rules....
Forum: Serious Business 16-11-2018, 16:51
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Posted By Malcolm Tucker
OK, take the big one. Here's why NI has been an...

OK, take the big one. Here's why NI has been an issue.

1. We want to control immigration/our borders with EU. With the channel/airports that's easy because we're an island but
2. with NI that's...
Forum: Serious Business 16-11-2018, 16:22
Replies: 5,368
Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
It doesn't if you deliberately ignore the rest of...

It doesn't if you deliberately ignore the rest of the point, no.

If May's agreement is purely the product of wilful sabotage or just sheer idiocy, then why hasn't someone, anyone, offered a proper...
Forum: Serious Business 16-11-2018, 16:07
Replies: 5,368
Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
*leans back and sips latte* To a certain...

*leans back and sips latte*

To a certain extent I'm sure they relish some of it, in the same way we would have relished capitulation from them. We have bragged endlessly about how we hold all the...
Forum: Serious Business 16-11-2018, 14:32
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Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
MPs don't have to declare it publicly, so the...

MPs don't have to declare it publicly, so the number that have submitted in private is unknown.
Forum: Serious Business 16-11-2018, 13:47
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Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
The 1922 stuff is proper old school through...

The 1922 stuff is proper old school through apparently, I've heard that he checks it once per day at 5pm and then literally ignores requests for comment for another 24 hours. His method of physically...
Forum: Serious Business 16-11-2018, 13:29
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Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
The opinion polls and final brexit vote weren't...

The opinion polls and final brexit vote weren't that far out though, if you look at the polls running up to the final vote they were roughly in line with the result, about a 5% margin of 'error'
...
Forum: Serious Business 16-11-2018, 13:16
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Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
I RECKON that if MPs actually do vote down the...

I RECKON that if MPs actually do vote down the deal, May will stop, she will absolutely slam the brakes on. She won't press on with it after that. She'll be resolute about not bluffing, like all good...
Forum: Serious Business 16-11-2018, 12:54
Replies: 5,368
Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
It's a secretive process with 1922 but seems like...

It's a secretive process with 1922 but seems like 48 has been reached or they're literally at 46/47 or something now.

The thing is though the plotters STILL haven't really come up with the next...
Forum: Serious Business 16-11-2018, 10:44
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Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
WAIT SOMETHING IS HAPPENING

WAIT

SOMETHING IS HAPPENING
Forum: Serious Business 16-11-2018, 10:10
Replies: 5,368
Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
More letters gone in today apparently. Seems...

More letters gone in today apparently.

Seems like they were starting from a low amount to begin with.
Forum: Serious Business 15-11-2018, 17:44
Replies: 5,368
Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
Odd isn't it.

Odd isn't it.
Forum: Serious Business 15-11-2018, 17:37
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Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
So Farage is backing May and the deal, believing...

So Farage is backing May and the deal, believing getting rid of her means it'll be the end of brexit. He's willing to admit this could be as good as it gets.
Forum: Serious Business 15-11-2018, 17:32
Replies: 5,368
Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
lol if at 5pm it's just a massive troll and she...

lol if at 5pm it's just a massive troll and she just "announces" she's more committed to her deal than ever and vows to carry on.
Forum: Serious Business 15-11-2018, 17:30
Replies: 5,368
Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
So MPs simultaneously want a no-deal Brexit but...

So MPs simultaneously want a no-deal Brexit but there's also very few proper Brexiters in parliament?

MPs are mostly remain, they've never really hidden that fact, and under Brexit have argued...
Forum: Serious Business 15-11-2018, 17:00
Replies: 5,368
Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
Hard to see the mere idea of having a vote being...

Hard to see the mere idea of having a vote being undemocratic. If the vote was simply overturned then I'd agree.

Having another one straight away was pointless but now we're at the end of the...
Forum: Serious Business 15-11-2018, 16:51
Replies: 5,368
Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
re: 5pm press announcement It's not about...

re: 5pm press announcement

It's not about letters, if 48 has been reached it'll be Tory Chairman who will announce it. Hard to see the PM being given the task to announce her own confidence vote....
Forum: Serious Business 15-11-2018, 16:44
Replies: 5,368
Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
Ran out of tears?

Ran out of tears?
Forum: Serious Business 15-11-2018, 16:29
Replies: 5,368
Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/20...

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2016-07/10/9/asset/buzzfeed-prod-fastlane02/sub-buzz-16813-1468158400-1.png

so glad we avoided all that chaos
Forum: Serious Business 15-11-2018, 15:33
Replies: 5,368
Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
Well he's completely misunderstood what the deal...

Well he's completely misunderstood what the deal is even for, it's a withdrawal agreement. Probably why the 39bn has survived in the text because it's not for agreeing a new trade deal, it's for...
Forum: Serious Business 15-11-2018, 15:19
Replies: 5,368
Views: 98,877
Posted By Malcolm Tucker
But he was the one who negotiated the 39bn...

But he was the one who negotiated the 39bn divorce settlement in 2017.
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